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While what you're saying might be true, I can't help but think about Pascal units and say: "It didn't have to be this hard! We solved this problem 40 years ago!"
Sorry, it's the same in Delphi (Pascal successor). The compilation time goes up exponentially as number of units goes up. Compilation of 2.000 files (750.000 lines) takes about 20 minutes.
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Similar in sentiment to "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone."
I'll definitely steal this!
I grew up on the Commodore 64 (1 Core, 1 hyper-thread :-), almost 1 MHz clock freq, almost 64 K usable RAM). The machine was usually pretty responsive, but when I typed too quickly in my word processor it sometimes got stuck and ate a few characters. I used to think: "If computers were only fast enough so I could type without interruption...". If you'd asked me back then for a top ten list what I wished computers cou…
We've come to the point where building the browser from scratch takes more than building the OS itself.
Interesting metric actually. Building Windows takes 12 hours [1]. It's a bit harder to find metrics on Linux. You can build the kernel in 60 seconds apparently [2] but that is not a complete operating system. [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/226377/operating-system-... [2] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNjU
That said, core-image-sato used to be just a simple demo image. In my old build system, we would build the Arago Project for a TI SoC every night and it would take a few hours but that included a lot of the DSP code as well which was really slow too. So a couple of hours on average is my guess.
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Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose...
"The more it changes, the more it’s the same thing." [0] [0]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/plus_%C3%A7a_change,_plus_c%2...
We've come to the point where building the browser from scratch takes more than building the OS itself.
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I think most of the shit is concentrated on a couple of notable platforms: Windows and Android. Outside of that space I've noticed less productivity hampering nightmare tools and OS features. Really I get perhaps one or two bits of stupid from Linux a year on the server-side, usually when integrating it with Windows ironically, and on the macOS/iOS front I haven't had a notable issue since I switched about a year ago…
I'm using Linux for my daily work for more than ten years now and develop for MacOS since around 2000, and I honestly cannot confirm this. If you have a fast and well-tuned machine, the sluggishness of modern applications might not be so notable, but it surely is there, and then there are also many usability issues of desktop software on Linux. Not to speak of browser-based applications, which mostly have unusable us…
https://ptrthomas.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/java-call-stack-f...
Full disclosure: I work for Google on Chrome. A Chrome build is truly a computational load to be reckoned with. Without the distributed build, a from-scratch build of Chrome will take at least 30 minutes on a Macbook Pro--maybe an hour(!). TBH I don't remember toughing out a full build without resorting to goma. Even on a hefty workstation, a full build is a go-for-lunch kind of interruption. It will absolutely own a…
Then we tried to attach the OO paradigm to it and we got the monstrosity that is C++ (and as a consequence of that - Java - which has fixed some issues but still suffers)
And don't get me started on templates
I'm so glad that paradigm is starting to die out and hopefully Rust, Go and others will take over (their object model still doesn't get around my head but it will eventually)
Full disclosure: I work for Google on Chrome. A Chrome build is truly a computational load to be reckoned with. Without the distributed build, a from-scratch build of Chrome will take at least 30 minutes on a Macbook Pro--maybe an hour(!). TBH I don't remember toughing out a full build without resorting to goma. Even on a hefty workstation, a full build is a go-for-lunch kind of interruption. It will absolutely own a…
We've come to the point where building the browser from scratch takes more than building the OS itself.
On my Macs I've been doing "port install -s" most of the time and I can tell you some relatively small installs can take a very long time.