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Re: IPhone 4

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post #9

Not sure why ppl continue reading his completely biased crap.

It's a positive, thorough review by someone who develops on the Apple platform. Do you comment on Silverlight developers glowing posts as well? Or do you just dislike it when Apple developers do it?

Re: IPhone 4

#22

That Apple pays so much attention to the details as to pick a different version of Helvetica for different classes of displays is emblematic of what makes the iPhone the iPhone — software and hardware that are designed in tandem as parts of a single whole. Really? On the next paragraph... There is, however, one problem with Helvetica Neue in iOS 4.0: it doesn’t include italics.(...)I can only assume this is an oversi…

As a designer, Helvetica Neue (even without italics) is a huge step in the right aesthetic direction. His original point was not so much about the font, but about the platform. He lays the groundwork, showing that the platform was higher resolution and therefore it made more sense for a font that displayed better at higher resolutions to be used.

I think it's a valid point and a great critique -- how is it contradictory to praise what is praiseworthy and point out what is wrong?

Re: IPhone 4

#23
post #12

>The overall build quality seems impossibly good. The iPhone 4 is beautiful to behold and feels like a valuable artifact. It’s like a love letter to Dieter Rams. Do other people actually like reading stuff like this? I mean, regardless of what you think of the iphone 4, that level of praise almost makes me feel bad for him. It's like romantic love for an object.

> It’s like a love letter to Dieter Rams.

In the design documentary, Objectified, by Gary Hustwit, Dieter Rams is asked if there is any company that really gets design today. He answers after a moment's pause: "Apple".

I believe Apple is integrating design down to lower levels than anyone has done before. Some companies talk about corporate DNA but Apple is going to Jurassic Park levels.

It feels natural. Even though the object has been artificially and painstakingly engineered with love.

Excerpt from "Objectified": Dieter Rams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBF1rOxWsxg

Excerpt from "Objectified": Jonathan Ive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0fe800C2CU

http://www.objectifiedfilm.com/

Re: IPhone 4

#24
post #16
post #12

>The overall build quality seems impossibly good. The iPhone 4 is beautiful to behold and feels like a valuable artifact. It’s like a love letter to Dieter Rams. Do other people actually like reading stuff like this? I mean, regardless of what you think of the iphone 4, that level of praise almost makes me feel bad for him. It's like romantic love for an object.

I don't feel bad for him because I am sure he is getting paid.

Paid? By Apple?

Or just his feed sponsorships and Deck ads?

Re: IPhone 4

#25
post #7
post #4

Is it only me who finds the flat sides and glass back "aesthetically" unpleasing... The 3GS looks a tad better to me than the 4 (ofcourse they aren't deal breakers, but wanted to know since Gruber seem to like them)

Have you seen one in person? I think the new iPhone doesn’t look so good in photos (at least not Apple’s) but it looks quite great in person. No contest with the old plastic thing.

Completely agreed. The plastic felt cheap. This feels like a Rolex.

Re: IPhone 4

#26
I'm a little upset that this is called "IPhone 4". It is part of the story, in fact, a very telling part of his narrative that he merely titled it "4".

Re: IPhone 4

#27

That Apple pays so much attention to the details as to pick a different version of Helvetica for different classes of displays is emblematic of what makes the iPhone the iPhone — software and hardware that are designed in tandem as parts of a single whole. Really? On the next paragraph... There is, however, one problem with Helvetica Neue in iOS 4.0: it doesn’t include italics.(...)I can only assume this is an oversi…

As a designer, Helvetica Neue (even without italics) is a huge step in the right aesthetic direction. His original point was not so much about the font, but about the platform. He lays the groundwork, showing that the platform was higher resolution and therefore it made more sense for a font that displayed better at higher resolutions to be used. I think it's a valid point and a great critique -- how is it contradict…

Surely it's like saying "Ford pay so much detail to every part of their cars, it's amazing the level of care put into each and every model"

and later saying "Of course Ford did forget to include wheels on this particular model"

Re: IPhone 4

#28
post #4

Is it only me who finds the flat sides and glass back "aesthetically" unpleasing... The 3GS looks a tad better to me than the 4 (ofcourse they aren't deal breakers, but wanted to know since Gruber seem to like them)

I agree, the 4 looks like a step back. Maybe to a 70s type of design. Looks cludgy to me.

Re: IPhone 4

#29
Apple is so good at making buttons, it’s almost enough to make one wish they made button-laden devices.

Oh come on...Pro mouse, Mighty Mouse, Magic Mouse, current and previous gen macbook trackpad buttons, the previous gen desktop keyboards, iPod click-wheels, Apple Remote...these are some of the worst buttons I've used. Apple has made some decent buttons (I think the current and previous gen MBP keyboards are well made), but they're way too inconsistent to make a claim like that.

Re: IPhone 4

#30
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a designer, Helvetica Neue (even without italics) is a huge step in the right aesthetic direction. His original point was not so much about the font, but about the platform. He lays the groundwork, showing that the platform was higher resolution and therefore it made more sense for a font that displayed better at higher resolutions to be used. I think it's a valid point and a great critique -- how is it contradict…

Surely it's like saying "Ford pay so much detail to every part of their cars, it's amazing the level of care put into each and every model" and later saying "Of course Ford did forget to include wheels on this particular model"

"Ford's new engine is incredibly powerful and well designed, but it's missing a low gear setting on the shifter." Might be more apt.

Again, Neue is leaps and bounds ahead of regular old Helvetica. It's a total bonehead move to leave out italics even though most people won't notice it's absence.

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