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How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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Do we always need additional/external weights, or are there any body weight exercises that can target your bones? Perhaps leg bones are easier since the body weight goes through them. How about upper body (like shoulder area) and the spine?

You can do a lot with just bodyweight, but even the r/bodyweight folks recommend using a barbell for squats and deadlifts.

You can get pretty far with kettlebells too. And they're easier to deal with for a home gym.

Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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"...dropped about 40 pounds without ever worrying about the diet side of things" "... [I made] an effort to avoid sugared soda, fruit juice (has a ton of sugar), junk food, etc." Important contradiction to point out there. I'd say you did worry about the diet side of things given the effort to avoid sugar and junk. It's a common and widely accepted saying that "abs are made in the kitchen." That's to say, if you want…

Might be unclear wording on my part. I was thinking about the fitness and nutritional sites, forums, etc. you find when you Google on this topic. A lot of them try to persuade you to follow some pretty complicated or restrictive dietary plans, or expect you to monitor every last thing you eat. When it comes to diet, I am an unashamedly lazy man. Lifting the weights is tough enough as it is. I'm not going to live on o…

Absolutely agree with keeping the diet simple. People like to focus on measuring macros and get hyper focused on hitting someone's idea of perfect balance that won't make the slightest difference unless you're a high level athlete. The obvious, simple changes are going to make a huge difference for the average person.

Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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Indoor climbing/bouldering is a nice alternative for ppl who find lifting boring. Despite mostly engaging upper body, it really gives you a good workout with the added problem solving challenge, balance and flexibility training.

What I like about climbing, despite never having done it,

  - blends power and subtlety
  - blends static and dynamic
  - involves almost all limb chains
The added "route planning" effort also forces your brain into deep focus. A climber said for him every second is an hour.

And on actual rock, having to judge a grabbing surface on the fly is beautiful to me, like playing violin.

Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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Since I bet the overwhelming majority of our 300,000 years worth of homo sapiens ancestors and countless more years of prior ancestors exercised in these ways as a matter of course, I would instead title it "How sedentary lifestyles and lack of strength training degrade your body and mind."

Not sure if I made that comment already on HN. But I was watching a documentary on some amazonian hunter-gatherer tribe.

All the men from teens to elders looked like gym models. It never struck me until I was in my 30's - but really I have the body of a sick individual and the guy on the gym adverts is actually what the human body looks by design, not some sort of aspirational dream.

Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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Since I bet the overwhelming majority of our 300,000 years worth of homo sapiens ancestors and countless more years of prior ancestors exercised in these ways as a matter of course, I would instead title it "How sedentary lifestyles and lack of strength training degrade your body and mind."

Not sure if I made that comment already on HN. But I was watching a documentary on some amazonian hunter-gatherer tribe. All the men from teens to elders looked like gym models. It never struck me until I was in my 30's - but really I have the body of a sick individual and the guy on the gym adverts is actually what the human body looks by design, not some sort of aspirational dream.

Here's hoping you're young, and find the motivation to start testing the mental barrier that keeps you in this unhealthy state.

Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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"The average American flat-out loathes strength training. While about half of people do the recommended amount of aerobic activity each week, only 20% also do the muscle-strengthening moves that work major muscle groups." That definitely sums up myself. I am a cyclist. My totals for this week are 147.1 miles with 15,497 feet of climbing (I do nothing but mountains, flat is boring!), but if you ask me to do 10 push up…

You'd probably see nice returns in your cycling if you started doing heavy barbell squats too.

It's not really very useful. Most serious but recreational cyclists are limited in terms of available training time and recovery. When faced with the option of spending their limited time on the bike or in the weight room with the objective of going faster, the bike is almost invariably the right answer. The reason for that is that watts/kg and watts/cda are the 2 basic determinants of how quickly a cyclist can get anywhere. Weight lifting will increase the watts but only on a very, very short time scale (ie, sprinting). Weights will increase the kg and cda for cyclists who eat in surplus. Thus, the cyclist will be no faster and most probably actually get slower.

The obvious exception to this is track and road sprinters who benefit considerably from doing weight work. Everyone else serious about riding should just ride.

Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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post #44
post #15

Since I bet the overwhelming majority of our 300,000 years worth of homo sapiens ancestors and countless more years of prior ancestors exercised in these ways as a matter of course, I would instead title it "How sedentary lifestyles and lack of strength training degrade your body and mind."

Not sure if I made that comment already on HN. But I was watching a documentary on some amazonian hunter-gatherer tribe. All the men from teens to elders looked like gym models. It never struck me until I was in my 30's - but really I have the body of a sick individual and the guy on the gym adverts is actually what the human body looks by design, not some sort of aspirational dream.

All the men from teens to elders looked like gym models. It never struck me until I was in my 30's - but really I have the body of a sick individual and the guy on the gym adverts is actually what the human body looks by design, not some sort of aspirational dream.

I've seen comments like this before, and they're valid, but I've also seen evolutionary biologists and/or anthropologists point out too that many if not most people who are wounded or sick die. So you're also seeing selection bias, where the healthy thrive and you don't see the unhealthy because they're dead.

Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A related question would be: why doesn't my body dump all the fat, since I'm eating a surplus of calories anyway?

Presumably because carrying surplus fat has minimal cost relative to the evolutionary likelihood of famine. This is more obvious than the muscle scenario. For muscle, prior to the famine you get to do cool things like punch your neighbor and do pull ups. During a famine, you could consume your muscles as calories. Where is the cost?

If your body fat percentage is too low, you'll run into side effects (including reproductive ones)

Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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Do we always need additional/external weights, or are there any body weight exercises that can target your bones? Perhaps leg bones are easier since the body weight goes through them. How about upper body (like shoulder area) and the spine?

Get weights and get a trainer.

The difference is absolutely incredible, I thought it was supposed to take weeks to see changes and then I tried that and it was nearly instantaneous.

Re: How Strength Training Changes Your Body for Good

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do a lot with just bodyweight, but even the r/bodyweight folks recommend using a barbell for squats and deadlifts.

You can get pretty far with kettlebells too. And they're easier to deal with for a home gym.

Do you have a site you recommend with good routines? r/kettlebell maybe?

I'm familiar with kettlebells from Crossfit, but I know CF catches a lot of flak for how they use them.

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