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Everybody lies: how Google search reveals our darkest secrets

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Re: Everybody lies: how Google search reveals our darkest secrets

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The article suggests that racist jokes are a problem to be solved, but racist jokes serve a noble purpose according to Slavoj Zizek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IISMr5OMceg

Can't bear to watch that guy; the constant face & nose touches are very distracting.

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What a crock of utter and complete nonsense. If you isolated the simple statements of fact then this article would still be a long and enjoyable read, but instead i am assaulted with corresponding insane ranting; accusations against huge swaths of people that are totally unsupported. So nobody googles if their daughter is smart? Maybe its because parents are worried that looks and not intelligence are important for c…

I can honestly say it's never even crossed my mind to do a web search on a phrase like "Is my wife cheating" or "Is my son gifted." I really can't see finding the answers to questions like that on the internet.

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I'm not sure that counting gay porn searches (example they gave in the article) is a reliable indicator of whether the seeker is gay. This may be TMI for HN but once in a while I (a straight male with zero attraction to men ever) have searched for and "enjoyed" gay porn. I was curious about this phenomenon and found many forum posts where straight guys say they've watched gay porn.

Might that mean that you are bi? I mean, if you like watching it you might enjoy doing it. If your first response to that suggestion was visceral, maybe you actually have some aversion to the idea that you are. It makes sense, the world is easier for straight people, but it might bear closer examination.

Why might it bear closer examination? If a person is comfortable with what they are (and are not) sexually, why delve into it?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might that mean that you are bi? I mean, if you like watching it you might enjoy doing it. If your first response to that suggestion was visceral, maybe you actually have some aversion to the idea that you are. It makes sense, the world is easier for straight people, but it might bear closer examination.

This does not necessarily follow. I have (ahem, my username is not anonymous but I don't think this is controversial anymore) enjoyed porn of a nature that I wouldn't necessarily participate in. You can also enjoy porn that is completely fantastical and thus impossible to participate in, such as the infamous "hentai", or (I will never understand this) that "my little pony" porn genre, or from an unrealistic (or is it…

Obviously, it does not follow, but it seems likely that there is a correlation. I think it bears examination because knowing yourself is generally a good thing.

I say this because I too enjoy some porn that I thing I wouldn't want to participate in. I found it rather productive to consider what this means about me.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might that mean that you are bi? I mean, if you like watching it you might enjoy doing it. If your first response to that suggestion was visceral, maybe you actually have some aversion to the idea that you are. It makes sense, the world is easier for straight people, but it might bear closer examination.

Could be, but that's just one option. Another one being: purely curiousity. Engineering (and other) minds often think in ways like "What does it look like? How does it work practically?" etc, and that goes for any subject, so if that happens to be gay sex then gay porn would surely be a good starting point (while keeping in mind that the depicted stuff might not exactly represent reality, like a ton of porn out there…

Indeed, it is possible to enjoy gay porn without wanting to have gay sex. There is weird stigma around this though, which is why I suggested introspection. The stigma might distort some self-perception.

It is hard to talk about this because sadly 'you might be gay' is often read as an accusation.

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Not a single alternative is explored by this author and it should be no surprise because when you zoom out and look at the whole picture of this article its obvious that this guy is simply using these issues as a tool for popularity and self advancement. For example on those occasions when I want to do a search and not have it end up in advertiser databases, I switch to duckduckgo.

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to quote another comment I read on this aritcle:

"There is a pretty strict dividing line between watching something and wanting to do that something in real life. A lot of porn is based on scenarios (incest, teacher/student, etc.) where the idea is taboo and hot, but in reality you don't actually want to fuck your teacher."

also

"I know it's already been said, but only a special kind of idiot doesn't allow for the possibility of big differences between porn viewing habits and interests and real life sexual appetites and proclivities. Maybe that's not true for everybody, but it's absolutely true for many."

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There is a PR fluff piece about this book on HN every week. -1 spam.

In the US version of this article had a big focus on apparently secret attraction for overweight women. I wonder what the "darkest secret" is that pushed the author to focus on whether people are gay or not in the U.K.?

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This is a well understood phenomenon in the world of Garbology [1] called the Lean-Cuisine Syndrome [2] In one study garbologists found that people uniformly underreported the quantity of junk food they eat, and overreport the amount of fruit and diet soda they consume. Most people also underreport their consumption of alcohol by 40 to 60 percent; on the other hand, heads of households regularly exaggerate the amount…

Or the well known phenomenon that when people are asked how many lifetime opposite-sex sex partners they've had, the average reported by men is about twice the average reported by women (though, by construction, they ought to be the same - just imagine a bipartite graph (undirected!) and count the lines going from left to right and compare with the number of lines going from right to left).

See eg. David Spiegelhalter, Sex by Numbers: What Statistics Can Tell Us About Sexual Behaviour, chapter 3.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incognito mode doesn't do anything to hide your location or IP (basically the same thing on non-mobile). It's really just meant as a porn mode: nothing you do is saved to disk.

Good for temporary logins to services when using someone else's machine as well.

As long as your threat model is "I'm worried I'll forget to log out, but I'm not worried I'll forget to close all the incognito windows".

If you're worried about the foreign machine compromising your accounts, incognito mode will do nothing to help you.

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