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Judge rules Utah law banning undercover farm filming is unconstitutional

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Re: Judge rules Utah law banning undercover farm filming is unconstitutional

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It seems strange to me that agriculture should be treated differently than any other industry.

Right. If criminalizing exposure of animal abuse in agriculture is okay, what's next? Extension of the "protection" to equestrian trainers, animal testing by pharma, and puppy mills?

Re: Judge rules Utah law banning undercover farm filming is unconstitutional

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people aren’t comfortable watching animals being slaughtered maybe they shouldn’t eat them.

I'm not comfortable watching people changing adult diapers, but I'll visit a nursing home. I'm not comfortable watching people be killed, but I'll celebrate American Independence Day. I'm not comfortable with watching surgery, but I'll undergo surgery. There are loads of things I benefit from that I don't enjoy watching. EDIT: FYI, I have butchered pigs, chickens, and rabbits.

Would you undergo surgery if there was a more comfortable option with equivalent or better results?

Re: Judge rules Utah law banning undercover farm filming is unconstitutional

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not comfortable watching people changing adult diapers, but I'll visit a nursing home. I'm not comfortable watching people be killed, but I'll celebrate American Independence Day. I'm not comfortable with watching surgery, but I'll undergo surgery. There are loads of things I benefit from that I don't enjoy watching. EDIT: FYI, I have butchered pigs, chickens, and rabbits.

Would you undergo surgery if there was a more comfortable option with equivalent or better results?

Yes.

Re: Judge rules Utah law banning undercover farm filming is unconstitutional

#94

Besides the welfare of the animals, this is also important to the food safety and health of society to have clear insight into how food is produced.

We call it health inspectors and what they do and check is not a secret at all. Everybody can ask them about their job.

Re: Judge rules Utah law banning undercover farm filming is unconstitutional

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Ag-gag laws are legitimized, crooked censorship. The meat processing industry is still extremely insulated, but let's hope this gets chipped away to reveal their secrets. This is one of the reasons undocumented immigrant labor is exploited: they generally won't say anything. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/21/us/meatpackers-profits-hin... http://www.meatpoultry.com/articles/news_home/Business/2013/... See also: SHowin…

> The meat processing industry is still extremely insulated, but let's hope this gets chipped away to reveal their secrets. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

There are few people outside the health care system who will not be traumatised by watching a surgery.

There are few people outside abbatoirs (or indeed inside them) who can watch animals being slaughtered and butchered without emotional trauma.

Sometimes things are hidden from us to protect us from harm.

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