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U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

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Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

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Moving food to a poor town in the US from somewhere else is a trivial task. Africa has its own set of problems.

Please help me understand. Why would Africans need unhealthy, pesticide-infested food from America? Unless it is a country ravaged with wars, sponsored by the same, America? We can grow our own food.

No, Africa can't grow its own food. If they could, they would've, a long time ago.

Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

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This will kill the rainforrest in Africa. Because the survivors will use it for bushmeat, wood, jobs, fields for cows, ...

Ignorance on this comment is on another level. Please find some time and visit Africa. Stop learning about Africa from charity organisations who want to swindle you of your hard-earned cash. Obviously they will portray a bleak picture so that you can donate. We don't live in bushes. We have cities and some of us have a better quality of life than most people in the Western countries.

Where did you get the idea about what I know and what I don't know about Africa? Is Malaria really mainly a problem for the city dwellers with high living standards? Brasil is destroying their rain forrest. And one reason why they can is because they don't have the same problem with Malaria.

Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

#43
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please help me understand. Why would Africans need unhealthy, pesticide-infested food from America? Unless it is a country ravaged with wars, sponsored by the same, America? We can grow our own food.

No, Africa can't grow its own food. If they could, they would've, a long time ago.

We are growing our own food and exporting excess food to other countries. What do you think we are doing with our land? Just play on it? Only countries who are unable to grow their own food are those who are at war. War which is started by the very same West who pretend to be feeding us.

Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignorance on this comment is on another level. Please find some time and visit Africa. Stop learning about Africa from charity organisations who want to swindle you of your hard-earned cash. Obviously they will portray a bleak picture so that you can donate. We don't live in bushes. We have cities and some of us have a better quality of life than most people in the Western countries.

Where did you get the idea about what I know and what I don't know about Africa? Is Malaria really mainly a problem for the city dwellers with high living standards? Brasil is destroying their rain forrest. And one reason why they can is because they don't have the same problem with Malaria.

Reading from your comment, it is clear you are commenting from an ignorant and misinformed position.

Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

#45

I don't know if this is a hard/cold way of looking at things, but I want a bang for my back in donating to charity. I've (almost) exclusively give to malaria foundations. Even if you don't want to give, set your Amazon to smile.amazon and it will donate a very small portion of your purchases to the charity of your choice. It may add up to $50-$100 in money given on your behalf over time.

This is basically what the Gates Foundation does. The primarily focus on infectious disease and malaria is a big one (along with HIV, TB and others). They also dabble in charter schools and some other business, but the goal is always bang for buck.

Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

#46
post #28

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What's with the downvotes? The question is asked in good faith and it produced an interesting discussion. Would y'all prefer for the author to remain silent with his thoughts, and for the opposing arguments to remain untold?

If I had enough clout to downvote, I was going to do so. I was going to do so because the comment is totally ignorant. I don't know who is feeding people around the world this misinformation that African people are all dying of hunger and waiting for food aid.

I don't know who is either, but how is ignorance going to be fixed if we punish people who ask questions?

Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

#47
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Now the devil's question: how are we going to feed all the people that survive because of this? Really, don't get me wrong, it's fantastic that lives are being saved. The amount of grief being spared by this, by not losing a child for so many families, is unimaginable. I am just wondering if we are not creating an even bigger problem by solving this problem before the other.

Not sure if it is ignorance that is making you to utter such words about Africa. Do you seriously think all African people are dying of hunger and waiting for food aid from your governments? Have you ever been to any African country? Majority of countries with food and hunger problems are those who are at war. Rest of us, citizens pf this wonderful and arable continent, can feed ourselves and don't need any food aid.…

Then why must Africa receive millions in aid from the West every single year? Why can't they help themselves?

http://www.chronicle.co.zw/one-million-receive-food-aid

In 2015, the U.S. provided more than $8 billion in assistance to 47 sub-Saharan countries; and USAID maintains 27 regional and bilateral missions in Africa.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/foreign-policy/323198-...

Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

#48
post #33

This will kill the rainforrest in Africa. Because the survivors will use it for bushmeat, wood, jobs, fields for cows, ...

That is not true, but even if it were: fuck the rain forrest. What we are talking about here is peoples children.

Obviously logic is not part of your thought process. If we continue to populate the earth, which has limited local resources with more and more people nobody is helped! Fuck the rain forest? Really? The Rain forest is more worth than a few billion people. People are not worth anything. Everybody is replaceable, there are nearly 8 billion of us. Stop being so arrogant and anthropocentric. @Thread: 2 million saved are 2 million more living shitty lives and potentially suffer from starvation, malnutrition, civil wars etc. If you want to help the people make sure there are less of them! Spending money on mosquito nets...seriously people, just saying that makes it ridiculous.

Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

#49
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's with the downvotes? The question is asked in good faith and it produced an interesting discussion. Would y'all prefer for the author to remain silent with his thoughts, and for the opposing arguments to remain untold?

If I had enough clout to downvote, I was going to do so. I was going to do so because the comment is totally ignorant. I don't know who is feeding people around the world this misinformation that African people are all dying of hunger and waiting for food aid.

And reactions like yours based off emotion rather than willingness to provide facts or logically argue are what push people away. In the meantime, it is true that Africa's population is going through massive booms artificially propped up through aid, aid which in direct competition with native agriculture, actually even harming their ability to naturally provide their own means of sustainability. And that's before you even consider impacts of things like the tsetse fly which costs African Ag business BILLIONS. http://www.irinnews.org/news/2009/05/12/tsetse-fly-costs-agr...

These things are a potential ticking time bomb if not truly considered in the fullest of their implications. The African population, usually dependent on having as many offspring as possible to offset a low survival rate, is set to bring more people into the world than the entirety of Europe in the next 15 years, with arguably little means to account for their well-being.

Re: U.S. Malaria Donations Saved Almost 2M African Children

#50
post #10

Now the devil's question: how are we going to feed all the people that survive because of this? Really, don't get me wrong, it's fantastic that lives are being saved. The amount of grief being spared by this, by not losing a child for so many families, is unimaginable. I am just wondering if we are not creating an even bigger problem by solving this problem before the other.

It is true that Africa's population is going through massive booms artificially propped up through aid, aid which in direct competition with native agriculture, actually even harming their ability to naturally provide their own means of sustainability. And that's before you even consider impacts of things like the tsetse fly which costs African Ag business BILLIONS. http://www.irinnews.org/news/2009/05/12/tsetse-fly-costs-agr...

These things are a potential ticking time bomb if not truly considered in the fullest of their implications. The African population, usually dependent on having as many offspring as possible to offset a low survival rate, is set to bring more people into the world than the entirety of Europe in the next 15 years, with arguably little means to account for their well-being.

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