Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud
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Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud
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#2What is it? There's no explanation of what it is in the website, although there is a whitepaper, documentation, a tutorial and a description of the protocol.
From the whitepaper Abstract:
"A peer-to-peer cloud storage network implementing client-side encryption would allow users to transfer and share data without reliance on a third party storage provider. The removal of central controls would mitigate most traditional data failures and outages, as well as significantly increase security, privacy, and data control. Peer-to-peer networks are generally unfeasible for production storage systems, as data availability is a function of popularity, rather than utility. We propose a solution in the form of a challenge-response verification system coupled with direct payments. In this way we can periodically check data integrity, and offer rewards to peers maintaining data. We further propose that in order to secure such a system, participants must have complete anonymity in regard to both communication and payments."
Re: Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud
#3What is it? There's no explanation of what it is in the website, although there is a whitepaper, documentation, a tutorial and a description of the protocol. From the whitepaper Abstract: "A peer-to-peer cloud storage network implementing client-side encryption would allow users to transfer and share data without reliance on a third party storage provider. The removal of central controls would mitigate most tradition…
Somewhat related: why every project out there that wants to appear as serious has to publish a "whitepaper", which is basically any gibberish you want in a PDF format?
(Not saying ORC is gibberish at all, but I do have seem the most simple and stupid ideas written in tech projects whitepapers over the last years.)
Why can't a project write all it wants in HTML pages, with links, clickable topics, separated pages, images, code snippets, examples etc., everything that could make it better to read and understand?
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#4Interesting, does anyone know how this is related to storj.io?
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#5Interesting, does anyone know how this is related to storj.io?
It looks like a bunch of their team was part of the Storj team previously - maybe a fork of Storj's core to be compatible with Onion vs Blockchain?
It looks like their website is also based on the same theme.
From a commented out paragraph: ORC is a non-profit free software project sponsored by Counterpoint" rel="nofollow">https://counterpoint.info">Counterpoint Hackerspace. It's team is composed of previous authors and contributors to Bitcore" rel="nofollow">https://bitcore.io">Bitcore, Storj" rel="nofollow">https://storj.io">Storj, IPFS" rel="nofollow">https://ipfs.io">IPFS, Ethereum" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org">Ethereum, and Zcash" rel="nofollow">https://z.cash">Zcash. We are strong proponents of anonymity, decentralization, and community and we are building ORC to bring those qualities to the cloud. We are passionate about the work we've done but we need" rel="nofollow">https://www.generosity.com/fundraising/orc-distributed-anony... help to continue hacking the planet!
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#6What is it? There's no explanation of what it is in the website, although there is a whitepaper, documentation, a tutorial and a description of the protocol. From the whitepaper Abstract: "A peer-to-peer cloud storage network implementing client-side encryption would allow users to transfer and share data without reliance on a third party storage provider. The removal of central controls would mitigate most tradition…
I think I was mistaken (but this should hint at the state of the landing page design), there is actually a simple explanation of what it is if you scroll:
"The ORC Project is a peer-to-peer network of computers that coordinate anonymously over Tor to allocate their unused hard disk capacity into a collective cloud. Developers can use the ORC network as an object storage platform in place of the popular cloud services offered by Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. Peers automatically pay each other based on storage used, bandwidth, and availability using the anonymous cryptocurrency Zcash for a fraction of the cost of using a traditional centralized cloud.
In the ORC network, files are encrypted on the user's computer, shredded into smaller chunks, and then stored on many different computers around the world. Redundancy is achieved through the use of erasure codes so that your data can always be recovered even in the event of large network outages. ORC is completely decentralized, meaning that no single company or organization has control of your data, only you!"
Re: Show HN: ORC – Onion Routed Cloud
#7What is it? There's no explanation of what it is in the website, although there is a whitepaper, documentation, a tutorial and a description of the protocol. From the whitepaper Abstract: "A peer-to-peer cloud storage network implementing client-side encryption would allow users to transfer and share data without reliance on a third party storage provider. The removal of central controls would mitigate most tradition…
Somewhat related: why every project out there that wants to appear as serious has to publish a "whitepaper", which is basically any gibberish you want in a PDF format? (Not saying ORC is gibberish at all, but I do have seem the most simple and stupid ideas written in tech projects whitepapers over the last years.) Why can't a project write all it wants in HTML pages, with links, clickable topics, separated pages, ima…
Because whitepapers look scientific and somewhat professional. At least enough to let people believe a given project is worth an ICO investment. (Not ORC, but still, guys c'mon just give us the information on a website)
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#8What is it? There's no explanation of what it is in the website, although there is a whitepaper, documentation, a tutorial and a description of the protocol. From the whitepaper Abstract: "A peer-to-peer cloud storage network implementing client-side encryption would allow users to transfer and share data without reliance on a third party storage provider. The removal of central controls would mitigate most tradition…
I think I was mistaken (but this should hint at the state of the landing page design), there is actually a simple explanation of what it is if you scroll: "The ORC Project is a peer-to-peer network of computers that coordinate anonymously over Tor to allocate their unused hard disk capacity into a collective cloud. Developers can use the ORC network as an object storage platform in place of the popular cloud services…
Sounds very much like Freenet...
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#9What is it? There's no explanation of what it is in the website, although there is a whitepaper, documentation, a tutorial and a description of the protocol. From the whitepaper Abstract: "A peer-to-peer cloud storage network implementing client-side encryption would allow users to transfer and share data without reliance on a third party storage provider. The removal of central controls would mitigate most tradition…
Somewhat related: why every project out there that wants to appear as serious has to publish a "whitepaper", which is basically any gibberish you want in a PDF format? (Not saying ORC is gibberish at all, but I do have seem the most simple and stupid ideas written in tech projects whitepapers over the last years.) Why can't a project write all it wants in HTML pages, with links, clickable topics, separated pages, ima…
It reminds me of the Kickstarter and Angellist video fad.
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#10Interesting, does anyone know how this is related to storj.io?
IIUC, this was a fork of storj created by a recently-former maintainer [1]. Strikes me as a great time to liquidate your SJCX (I just did).
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/storj/comments/6llxpn/so_long_frien...