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Photos of Mosul 2017

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These shots capture the harshness of human conflict and how we (human beings) change in the face of it. Thank you. I disagree with people saying these are good shots. In the collection another user posted ( http://www.kainoalittle.com/mosul ) there are better shots technically and artistically. Yet that the photographer chose these shots for the article speak tons. These aren't photographs to make you feel better, th…

I always found disturbing the way a mixing "art" with this kind of subject. It's giving a much more positive feedback, as in "it looks cool" or the feeling of emotions you get in a movie (because it doesn't look real). Let's not forget war is freaking horrible and there is nothing worth idealizing one way or another about it. That's my personal belief, but I don't think art has its place here. Any form of heroic spec…

I both agree with you and disagree with you. On the one hand war just or unjust results in destruction and death, so anything that comes from it is tainted by it.

On the other hand, that may be my personal attitude, others certainly feel different about it. Some people profit off if it (not in the multinational way, I mean people making a living bringing provisions in, etc).

On a detached unemotional level, I think there is no reason not to record these events. Be they fire, earthquake, floods, disease, war, etc.

James Nachtway[1]does good on that front by me.

[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Nachtwey

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The recent drone footage from Mosul is some of the most mind blowing, surreal stuff imaginable. God help anyone trapped in that city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW_F2ntQOcQ

I've been watching live combat footage on the Internet. War is an astounding phenomenon.

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I always found disturbing the way a mixing "art" with this kind of subject. It's giving a much more positive feedback, as in "it looks cool" or the feeling of emotions you get in a movie (because it doesn't look real). Let's not forget war is freaking horrible and there is nothing worth idealizing one way or another about it. That's my personal belief, but I don't think art has its place here. Any form of heroic spec…

Does there exist any acceptable mixing of art + war in your view? What are your thoughts on Picasso's "Guernica" [1] ? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_(Picasso)

When I think about Guernica I think about opportunism.

The painting was commissioned before Guernica's air raid. After the bombing Picasso remade the paint. This is the true history.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev...

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev...

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While I strongly support this journalist's work, I'm extremely hesitant to support the Free Burma Rangers. In Iraq they are an armed religious group, and while their goal of supporting refugees is admirable, their methods seem likely to make things worse. To be clear, their methods involve actively seeking out firefights. See http://www.freeburmarangers.org/international/kurdistan/ for some idea of how they think abo…

They are armed and they are religious, but they don't seem to be acting as combatants. The article you cite doesn't indicate that FBR members participated in any fighting. Yes, they actively seek out firefights because - rather obviously - that's where their services are likely to be needed. There are arguments for and against being armed in such an environment, but none of that suggests they're an "armed religious g…

They're a bunch of ex-military cowboys running around playing saviors, but they're not humanitarians. They're missionaries with guns. They endanger probably more lives than they save and screw things up for the actual humanitarian agencies who have to clean up their mess, while they get their egos stoked on puff pieces on the Omaha evening news. Do NOT support FBR.

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Does there exist any acceptable mixing of art + war in your view? What are your thoughts on Picasso's "Guernica" [1] ? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_(Picasso)

When I think about Guernica I think about opportunism. The painting was commissioned before Guernica's air raid. After the bombing Picasso remade the paint. This is the true history. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev... https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev...

fascinating. yet must the history of a painting always overshadow its current emotional impact & message?

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I'd never heard of the Free Burma Rangers before, and these photos helped me learn. I guess that means the author has succeeded in his admirable mission to tell others' stories.

I too had never heard of the Rangers and their work. Here's their site: http://www.freeburmarangers.org/

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When I think about Guernica I think about opportunism. The painting was commissioned before Guernica's air raid. After the bombing Picasso remade the paint. This is the true history. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev... https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev...

fascinating. yet must the history of a painting always overshadow its current emotional impact & message?

Years ago I learned to separate the art from the artist. There is too much art that I love made by despicable people, like Picasso. He was a really awful person but I leave that aside when enjoying his work.

Another interesting article about Picasso.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/05/arts/art-review-occupied-p...

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The recent drone footage from Mosul is some of the most mind blowing, surreal stuff imaginable. God help anyone trapped in that city. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW_F2ntQOcQ

anti refugee sentiment is so unconscionable, what the hell world do we live in
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