Mental health is still an issue in the workplace

Post by sbaoufbasfub » Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 10:47 PM UTC

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malnourish wrote: post #27

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Are sick days still a thing? At my job we get PTO and holidays (floating depending on the year), but no specific sick days. Apologies for any naivete.

I think sick days are generally a good idea as they encourage people that are sick not to come in, thus helping stem epidemics. If they're regular time off, people come in sick to save them up. You might try to make a distinction between contagious and non-contagious diseases, but it'd probably be unwise as often people don't know if they are contagious or not, and anyway encouraging healing isn't a terrible idea eve…

Post by gpawl » Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 11:33 PM UTC

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TallGuyShort wrote: post #40

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>> I've never heard of anyone here being asked for a verification, but it would tend to discourage people doing the "sanity day" sort of thing. I suspect that the lack of trust this indicates on the part of the company (not to mention foster on the part of the employee) is probably a sign that you're past the point of no return. I suspect a company that asked for verification was not doing so to see if you were genui…

I've seen people routinely abuse sick days and they considered it normal (they brag about it). Others coincidentally are "sick" for exactly 10 days a year, year after year. They think management doesn't notice, and wonder why they don't get much in the way of raises or promotions. Basically, you're right. The verification thing is invoked to provide convenient evidence to get rid of someone they already want to get r…

Post by gpawl » Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 11:35 PM UTC

Scarblac wrote: post #269

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> Are sick days still a thing? Why wouldn't they be? I assume they're mandatory in most countries.

In most (western, don't know otherwise) countries, you stay home when you're sick, and get paid because it's outside of your control. No matter if that is day 1 this year or day 20.

Post by gpawl » Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 11:39 PM UTC

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What is the difference between being depressed and "feeling" depressed? What is the difference between being schizophrenic and having the "opinion" that Satan speaks to you through your neighbor's cat? Mental illness is defined by what a person feels and believes. What you feel and believe is subjective but you can objectively establish that a particular cluster of subjective feelings and beliefs is abnormal vis-a-vi…

Not what you asked exactly, but response to drugs sometimes leads to an (objective) differential diagnosis: if someone is depressed and flips out in a manic attack when starting antidepressants... that's not Major Depressive, that's Bipolar. How do you objectively verify "manic"? You can track hours slept. No one fakes sleeping two hours a day for a month while having, say, good motor skills in the daytime. This matt…

Post by exclusiv » Sat, Jul 08, 2017, 1:40 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #318

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You didn't mention the most obvious solution which is condoms. I bought them easily as a teenager 18 years ago. You can get them for free in many places these days. You're also giving teenagers a pass for having unprotected sex as if they don't know there's a risk of 1) getting pregnant and 2) getting an STD. Certainly some birth control measures are less accessible to teenagers, but what I'm arguing is the parent's…

Without getting into any of the rest of this comment: that's not what you said . You blamed teenaged girls in part for not taking advantage of contraceptive pills. Specifically, you wrote: It's common knowledge how reproduction works. You have condoms, birth control pills and copper rings among other options. That's simply not a reasonable argument. Don't move the goalposts now.