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Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by FHMS »

nerdponx wrote: post #75
FHMS wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also think thats justified. A newer, and more specific term I particularly like is "Machine Learning Engineer", which will probably soon be recoined to "AI Engineer". We (www.datarevenue.com) basically have to use "AI" now to make it clear what we do. Something that would have made me feel awkward just 3 months ago.

Do you see a substantive difference between AI and ML? "Machine learning" to me is pretty cut and dry, in that anytime something is automated we are employing machine learning, literally teaching a machine to do something. "Artificial intelligence" I have a hard time defining, because I don't have a good definition for "intelligence".

Behind AI I would always expect at least Deep Learning. Machine Learning I use for everything that learns it's own decision boundaries. When it's humans teaching a machine, I'd call it simply automation or expert-system. Although a lot of "teaching" still goes into feature engineering ...

Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by briandear »

draw_down wrote: post #47
ryandrake wrote: post #31

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Well, since companies are always complaining about the chronic "shortage of tech talent" I'm sure everyone here will be employed within a few days, amiright? EDIT: Honest, non-snarky question, then: If you believe there really is this shortage of tech talent, why is this effort needed? I don’t believe there is such a shortage and I wish these guys best of luck.

The shortage is not evenly distributed.

That, and there isn’t a shortage. There is a shortage of engineers willing to work for the wage being offered. When there is a shortage of a particular type of engineer, it’s because the company wants to pay $75,000 for a position that the market demands be $95,000. Thus the “shortage” and the “need” to bring in low cost H1 workers to fill that shortage.

Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by dungle6 »

draw_down wrote: post #47
ryandrake wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, since companies are always complaining about the chronic "shortage of tech talent" I'm sure everyone here will be employed within a few days, amiright? EDIT: Honest, non-snarky question, then: If you believe there really is this shortage of tech talent, why is this effort needed? I don’t believe there is such a shortage and I wish these guys best of luck.

The shortage is not evenly distributed.

There absolutely is no shortage. The distribution issue is taken out of the picture by looking at large firms like Google and Apple that can hire broadly. Google prides themselves on their interview system that has a high false negative rate. If there were any kind of shortage, they would probably be desperate to improve their hiring efficiencies. They are most definitely not concerned with that. On the other hand it is always in the buyers best interest to bitch about a "shortage" especially when they have regulatory influence. Why wouldn't they want to lobby for anything that can bring supply prices down? The day you see blog posts about Google or Facebook streamlining their interview processes (for both type I and II errors), I'll concede.

Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by kevan »

richardknop wrote: post #62
kevan wrote: post #30

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The reason I usually hear: Good engineers almost always have jobs and usually aren't looking to change. When large layoff events happen good and bad engineers lose their jobs. This gives other companies an opportunity to recruit better talent with less effort than usual and, if they're really lucky, recruit entire teams that have worked together before.

One concern with that would be that good engineers would usually see this on the horizon and leave for better / more prospective jobs in advance. So those who stayed until mass layoffs might not be the top talent that used to work at the company before when it was doing better. I am not sure it applies in this case as this was quite sudden and we don't have enough visibility to see how many red flags were there few m…

Both hypotheses sound reasonable to me, I'd like to see some data on this type of thing.

Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by josegonzalez »

MattHeard wrote: post #50

The spreadsheet columns are not matching the right companies. For example, the link for Modomoto points to jobs at Oberlo. The link for Modomoto jobs is under Zalando.

Yeah, had to go in and fix the entry I put up yesterday for SeatGeek. We're hiring, NYC, CPH, Portland and Remote! http://seatgeek.com/jobs

Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by falinebambi »

emeraldd wrote: post #54

Two questions ... 1. This is a somewhat odd spreadsheet to find semi-randomly posted to HN. Can anyone speak to its provenance? 2. Is something, not so public, going on at Sound Cloud or is this just normal turn over for a company of there size?

Hey there, this spreadsheet was made by SoundCloud employees of the Berlin office who are now looking for work. We are just helping to share it and hoped the HN community could help. Any companies hiring please post - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JDx5acZPvdmmSeMyEr77...

Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by simplify »

briandear wrote: post #82
draw_down wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The shortage is not evenly distributed.

That, and there isn’t a shortage. There is a shortage of engineers willing to work for the wage being offered. When there is a shortage of a particular type of engineer, it’s because the company wants to pay $75,000 for a position that the market demands be $95,000. Thus the “shortage” and the “need” to bring in low cost H1 workers to fill that shortage.

Seems like if an engineer can easily hold out for 95k, it's because there is indeed a shortage that is big enough to do so. If there was a surplus of engineers instead, then more would be willing to work for lower pay, no?

Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by bogomipz »

briandear wrote: post #82
draw_down wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The shortage is not evenly distributed.

That, and there isn’t a shortage. There is a shortage of engineers willing to work for the wage being offered. When there is a shortage of a particular type of engineer, it’s because the company wants to pay $75,000 for a position that the market demands be $95,000. Thus the “shortage” and the “need” to bring in low cost H1 workers to fill that shortage.

Tangentially related but I believe Soundcloud actually paid above the average Berlin start up salary. Maybe someone else can confirm this?

Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by bogomipz »

kodfodrasz wrote: post #14

I may have lost current trends, but this is very disturbing to me. Putting up this data together is very disturbing and to be honest somewhat desperate in my eyes. Cannot these guys find jobs themselves, they must be sold in a bundle, or what is the idea behind? I believe the startup bubble is starting to slowly drain, and we'll see more and more of this.

>"Putting up this data together is very disturbing and to be honest somewhat desperate in my eyes. Cannot these guys find jobs themselves, they must be sold in a bundle, or what is the idea behind?"

I think this a rather insensitive view. How is this fundamentally different than changing a your LinkedIn status or putting your resume up on a job board? If anything it might just be more efficient.

Re: Hire a former SoundClouder

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Post by bitL »

I am pretty sure all ex-soundclouders are going to be super happy when low-ball offers start coming to them. They should consider their next job a temporary one and immediately start searching for another, better one...

EDIT: for downvoters, you probably never worked for Berlin startups, right?

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