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Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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On the contrary, he seems to the the kind of person that knows about the bureaucratic nature of NHTSA and cut his losses.

The questions he was asked were pretty darn reasonable, IMO. If he's unwilling or unable to answer those questions I have no problem at all with him being prohibited from selling a product that his customers would literally be trusting with their lives.

Not just his customers, but also anyone unfortunate enough to be on the same road at the same time as.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Excited about this. I've been looking for something like this for a while. Tried a couple of different types of OBD-II adapters from Ebay, but trying to get data from them over bluetooth or wifi was just a pain. Panda with a direct interface to my laptop will enable me to get all the information I've been trying to get from the OBD-II port of my car, specifically steering angles, acceleration and braking. Using them…

Odd - I got the cheapest odb2 I could find on ebay and never had any issues with it over Bluetooth using the Torque app for android.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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I saw a new player in self-driving yesterday - a blue Peterbilt truck equipped with many cameras and some of the puck-sized Velodyne laser scanners. Nevada license AU 0030. They were driving on US 101 southbound from Menlo Park to Mountain View, where they exited the freeway and got back on, northbound. They were bobtailing; no trailer. In that location, I'd first though it was one of Google's vehicles But why the Ne…

Please report this incident to the CA DMV if you haven't already.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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If he knew about it then why would he have even started the project? It's obvious that regulators would be involved in a project like this. I don't see how he didn't anticipate this from the start.

As they say: Hindsight is 20/20

You are literally agreeing with everyone accusing him of being ignorant though. You think you're defending him, but this is what everyone is saying. The fact that dealing with NHTSA or what that entails is "hindsight" to him is what makes him almost mind-bogglingly ignorant here. I would think a precocious 12-year-old would have been able to predict that, or at least would have the smarts to, say, at least ask somebody ahead of time (like a lawyer) what legal hurdles his business (that has life-and-death consequences, and that he sought funding for) might have to deal with in the future. His own explanation for what happened makes him sound way worse than if he hadn't explained it at all.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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This is the guy who was supposedly just a few weeks away from shipping a bolt-on smart cruise control module, then immediately canceled the entire thing when the NHTSA asked him some questions about its safety. He seems pretty sharp when it comes to technology, but I'm not sure if he's prepared to make actual products sold to regular people.

On the contrary, he seems to the the kind of person that knows about the bureaucratic nature of NHTSA and cut his losses.

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Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Hotz is quoted as saying in the article, "there are only three real competitors: Waymo, Tesla and us." That's total bullshit. There are so many companies seriously working on autonomous vehicles, such as GM Cruise, Auroa Innovation, Drive.ai, Zoox, Nuro.ai, nuTonomy, Varden Labs, AImotive, Ford, and Nvidia Edit, because George is on here: George, I want to like you, because I think your tech is really good (the stree…

I doubt Geohotz didn't do his homework before he made this conclusion. He went to CMU, Google and Facebook and had worked with the smartest professors/scientists/engineers in the field of AI before he founded Comma.ai. He's pretty much single-handed built a level 3 drive assist prototype within a year where other companies spent billions and many years R&D but not even came close to what he was originally intended to…

> He's pretty much single-handed built a level 3 drive assist prototype within a year

He may have claimed that but he hasn't really.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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TL;DR: it's a device that gathers metrics from the car sensors. The product is aimed at hackers and car enthusiasts. You want to know your top speed, 0 - 60 etc? This might be the device for you. Afaik there's already products out there that do the same thing. This could be at a lower price point though.

You can find similar products that work over bluetooth for under $10 on Amazon. I use an old smartphone on a mount to show all of the same information using a third-party app - no need for an $88 proprietary dongle. There doesn't seem to be anything new about this product other than marketing and a high price tag. I'd love for that to not be the case, however. Maybe I'm missing some features of it.

From the article comments:

>George Hotz:

None of the < $100 ones can dump all the data, they don't have the bandwidth. Or be reliable enough to send a packet at 100hz for hours without dropping any. Trust me, I wouldn't be building hardware if I didn't have to.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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I saw a new player in self-driving yesterday - a blue Peterbilt truck equipped with many cameras and some of the puck-sized Velodyne laser scanners. Nevada license AU 0030. They were driving on US 101 southbound from Menlo Park to Mountain View, where they exited the freeway and got back on, northbound. They were bobtailing; no trailer. In that location, I'd first though it was one of Google's vehicles But why the Ne…

Please report this incident to the CA DMV if you haven't already.

He didn't say it was driving on its own at the time

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Yeah you're right. I want to buy it though, and then wait a couple of months before plugging it into my own car. I'm just saying you can't just dismiss the guy's ability because he comes across arrogant. He's proven he's a hacker, and now he's trying to prove he's a maker as well. Maybe this Panda thing is engineered really well, and the money and reputation will get him to a point where he can run a nice company. Ma…

His arrogance is orthogonal to the issue. The issue is that he was obviously lying. He claimed he was weeks away from autonomous cars. If this was true, he would've sold the tech for a staggering pile of cash. Instead, all the evidence looks like he thought he could solve the problem on his own, in record time. Then he made a pretty basic POC (able to handle a small number of very simple conditions). Then he realized…

Autonomous vehicle technology, and it's free --> https://github.com/commaai/openpilot

Working, video by a user --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VN1YcC83nA

Where's the snake oil?

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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That's nonsense. if his claims were true, he could've sold the lot for nine or ten figures to somebody who was willing to deal with NHTSA. It is exceedingly foolish to believe George Hotz's extremely obvious lies. George Hotz is a smart guy who made some big mistakes, and isn't man enough to admit that he was lying.

Lying about what? We've done numerous livestreams showing off the technology, and it's available for free on our github.

Follow us on twitter to see: https://twitter.com/comma_ai

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