Don't be silly. Only poor, dark-skinned people get convicted of inadvertently supporting terrorism. Good White Christians make honest mistakes.
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Ancient Iraqi Artifacts Imported By Hobby Lobby to be Forfeited
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#112What boggles me in this case is that the Hobby Lobby people involved are not not already on a fast track for criminal charges. There are cases where simply donating money intended for orphan to the wrong type of Islamic organization has led to jail time. What more giving millions to buy black market artifacts from ISIS! I'll try to dig up a link about the charitable donation. Edit: Supreme Court ruling on providing s…
In Republican eyes, they are heroes for their Supreme Court victory over Obamacare. With that comes immunity from pretty much anything short of a dead girl or a live boy, as the saying goes.
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#113The terrorists are really only killing other Muslims in the Middle East, so that's perfectly OK with "committed evangelical Christians".
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly no. Which part? The themes of Snow Crash include anarcho-corporatism, psychological hacking, and virtual reality. Which of those involves ancient artifacts, smuggling, and Christian craft stores?
L. Bob Rife used an Evangelical Christian church as a cover for his plan to spread the mind-virus that he developed from the information in ancient Sumerian tablets.
Bingo, I was mainly thinking of a large christian organization acquiring ancient artifacts from the middle east.
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#115What boggles me in this case is that the Hobby Lobby people involved are not not already on a fast track for criminal charges. There are cases where simply donating money intended for orphan to the wrong type of Islamic organization has led to jail time. What more giving millions to buy black market artifacts from ISIS! I'll try to dig up a link about the charitable donation. Edit: Supreme Court ruling on providing s…
In Republican eyes, they are heroes for their Supreme Court victory over Obamacare. With that comes immunity from pretty much anything short of a dead girl or a live boy, as the saying goes.
And in Democrat eyes, they were already hated villains and they are cheering for the company to hit hard.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
> who said religious beliefs barred them from paying for certain kinds of contraception in their employees health care And who actually offered that contraception as part of their health care for decades, no problem, until obamacare mandated it , at which point they suddenly realized they had a deep-seated religious conviction against it.
Do you have a source for this one? I'd haven't heard this before.
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#117Saw on Twitter that someone called them the "Wahhabi Lobby". But actually, it seems ridiculous to me that this only warranted a $3m settlement. They've (almost certainly) been indirectly funding ISIS by robbing a country of its cultural artifacts. Not cool.
That's how the "justice" system works in America. Giant crime by a party with a lot of money? DOJ will just slap you with a relatively small fine. Bag of weed? You're going to jail, buddy!
So when someone from HL inevitably is jailed over this, will you admit that you and your outlook are wrong?
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Republican eyes, they are heroes for their Supreme Court victory over Obamacare. With that comes immunity from pretty much anything short of a dead girl or a live boy, as the saying goes.
And in Democrat eyes, they were already hated villains and they are cheering for the company to hit hard.
Yeah, but none of those Democrats are running the Justice Department right now.
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#119Ever since Drumpf was elected ignorance is now permissible as a total excuse from the law
This was in 2010 - so according to you that makes it President Obama's fault.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your yard sale analogy is a little off, unless the yard sale is in the middle of an active war zone. How do you think this went down? "Hey, let's buy this stuff from Iraq. Iraq, Iraq... where have I heard of that before? Hmm, isn't that where those ISIS fellows are? Well, never mind, they probably have nothing to do with it." There's also the issue of inconsistent punishment. If you or I had done this we'd probably b…
> "Hey, let's buy this stuff from Iraq. Iraq, Iraq... where have I heard of that before? Hmm, isn't that where those ISIS fellows are? Well, never mind, they probably have nothing to do with it." To be fair, it looks like all this happened in 2010—ISIS wasn't in the nation's consciousness back then: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=isis I'm not saying it was a good idea.
>To be fair, it looks like all this happened in 2010—ISIS wasn't in the nation's consciousness back then"
You realize that ISIS is the rebranded Al Queda in Iraq right? Al Queda in Iraq(AQI) began in 2004. The rebranding came in 2011 when Arab Spring protests in Syria resulted in that country being destabilized and AQI was able to move in to Syria to re-supply.
Regardless of the name changes they would have been part of any legitimate antiquities expert's and dealer's consciences.