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Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Sure, 'quite reliable' beats 'unique' every time!

Unique becomes unreliable the moment users delete their cookies.

Which they of course do much more often than change one of the finicky parameters that constitute these unique fingerprints (which in reality tend to not be unique to begin with)

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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That is why media struggles making money--it gives its audience for free to Facebook and Google with all that "free" share buttons and analytics. Why would an advertiser pay to a brand name media outlet money for displaying an ad if it could buy exactly this audience on Facebook or via Google much cheaper?

Media did it to itself--it just gave away it's audience for free. No wonder it can't make enough money via advertising.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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post #165

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I just wish Privacy Badger didn't force DNT to be enabled. Not only does the entire concept mean trusting the advertising companies implicitly, the header serves to differentiate your traffic.

You're worried about browser fingerprinting? Does any Firefox extension effectively counter that? From my understanding blocking 3rd party JS is largely insufficient for accomplishing this, regardless of DNT settings. You may be right regardless that it's better to appear as much like a stock browser as possible, in terms of privacy settings, so DNT should stay disabled. But in practical terms it might not make of a…

Yes, canvasblocker blocks one kind of fingerprinting. Combined with ublock (or privacybadger) + self destructing cookies and maybe decentraleyes, and a vpn, you are almost there...

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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I have a few questions. 1) “Facebook’s intrusion could have easily been blocked, but plaintiffs chose not to do so,” This seems like a dangerous precedent. So if we can block surveillance attempts and we don't try, then it's our fault? > “The fact that a user’s web browser automatically sends the same information to both parties does not establish that one party intercepted the user’s communication with the other,” T…

Yes, actually! You have no expectation of privacy with a postcard or a conversation in a public place, therefore they can be legally intercepted. This precedent predates the internet by decades.

Whether you take reasonable steps to make something private does influence the degree of legal protection it gets.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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post #139

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Why not just quit Facebook?

Gosh quitting Facebook has become the new going vegan. Can everyone just mind their own business?

Facebook is the new smoking, where many users complain about how it clearly negatively affects their lives and then when someone suggests quitting as a solution, random other users who weren't involved jump in to tell them to mind their own business.

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post #139

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Gosh quitting Facebook has become the new going vegan. Can everyone just mind their own business?

Facebook is the new smoking, where many users complain about how it clearly negatively affects their lives and then when someone suggests quitting as a solution, random other users who weren't involved jump in to tell them to mind their own business.

That's a slippery slope and you know it.

Are you going to follow everyone who's harming themselves in any way (alcohol, drugs, food, [insert any other vice]...) to chide about their behaviors?

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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post #86

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Wish it were still an option; I use quite a bit of RAM on multiple instances of browsers for this very reason.

Firefox is integrating a cookie feature from Tor called first-party isolation or double-key cookies. It will separate third-party cookies for each first-party site. If a.com and b.com both load images from evilcorp.com, Firefox will send evilcorp.com different cookies for requests from a.com and b.com. Blocking third-party cookies can break some site that rely on third-party resources, but first-party isolation shoul…

Thanks for the tip, I didn't know about that. I'll play with that this weekend. (Definitely not afraid of breaking sites; that's how I learn what they're up to.)

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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post #206

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Facebook is the new smoking, where many users complain about how it clearly negatively affects their lives and then when someone suggests quitting as a solution, random other users who weren't involved jump in to tell them to mind their own business.

That's a slippery slope and you know it. Are you going to follow everyone who's harming themselves in any way (alcohol, drugs, food, [insert any other vice]...) to chide about their behaviors?

I'm not chiding anyone about their behaviors. brainfire was saying how they solve their problems with Facebook, and I suggested an easier solution.

Lots of people have problems with Facebook, and I was suggesting a solution to their problems which many people think is untenable, but works well for me. If you don't have problems with Facebook, my comments weren't directed at you.

There's some irony in jumping into someone else's conversation to tell them to mind their own business and stop chiding people for their behavior.

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