Edit: disregard.
Title is bad. There's a civil suit attempting to take the artifacts, but the government hasn't won yet.
Ancient Iraqi Artifacts Imported By Hobby Lobby to be Forfeited
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#22Is it just me, or does Hobby Lobby seem to go out of their way to remind their customers that their values aren't the same as the customers? Seriously, they should go out of business.
Their customers are obviously perfectly happy to patronize them regardless of this.
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#23Saw on Twitter that someone called them the "Wahhabi Lobby". But actually, it seems ridiculous to me that this only warranted a $3m settlement. They've (almost certainly) been indirectly funding ISIS by robbing a country of its cultural artifacts. Not cool.
And perhaps equally infuriating and insulting is this Christian company not taking any responsibility for the theft or funding terrorists.
From the BBC articles;
>'Hobby Lobby said it "did not fully appreciate the complexities" of the import process when it began'
and
>'The company imprudently relied on dealers and shippers who, in hindsight, did not understand the correct way to document and ship these items," Hobby Lobby said'[1]
Its amazing that "committed evangelical Christians" who said religious beliefs barred them from paying for certain kinds of contraception in their employees health care doesn't have the same moral compunction when it comes to stealing or doing business with terrorists.[2]
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#24Edit: disregard. Title is bad. There's a civil suit attempting to take the artifacts, but the government hasn't won yet.
From the article:
"The government also filed a stipulation of settlement with Hobby Lobby, in which Hobby Lobby consented to the forfeiture of the artifacts in the complaint, approximately 144 cylinder seals and an additional sum of $3 million, resolving the civil action."
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#25Saw on Twitter that someone called them the "Wahhabi Lobby". But actually, it seems ridiculous to me that this only warranted a $3m settlement. They've (almost certainly) been indirectly funding ISIS by robbing a country of its cultural artifacts. Not cool.
To me this seems tantamount to funding terrorists and yet no one will spend even 1 hour in jail. From a purely practical perspective, why doesn't the government pursue prison for individuals involved in this?
The highest levels of the government now are good buddies with people just like this. I'm surprised they aren't just being let off scot-free to keep their artifacts.
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#26Saw on Twitter that someone called them the "Wahhabi Lobby". But actually, it seems ridiculous to me that this only warranted a $3m settlement. They've (almost certainly) been indirectly funding ISIS by robbing a country of its cultural artifacts. Not cool.
If I recall, they made these purchases in 2010. So just AQ linked Iraqi warlords (who you could probably bet on having joined ISIS). Ironically, if these artifacts were from northern Iraq, where ISIS has had its main destructive presence, there's a good chance they would have been destroyed. Still, gross to see a "Christian" company wanting to get items from the 'holy land' that have been totally plundered to build a…
> Ironically, if these artifacts were from northern Iraq, where ISIS has had its main destructive presence, there's a good chance they would have been destroyed.
It's largely understood that ISIS destroys archaeological sites so it's harder to notice that they've looted the artefacts to sell them. It also makes the artefacts harder to track and link to their POI.
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#27The terrorists are really only killing other Muslims in the Middle East, so that's perfectly OK with "committed evangelical Christians".
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#28Is it just me, or does Hobby Lobby seem to go out of their way to remind their customers that their values aren't the same as the customers? Seriously, they should go out of business.
> Is it just me, or does Hobby Lobby seem to go out of their way to remind their customers that their values aren't the same as the customers? Seriously, they should go out of business.
It's probably just you (or more precisely, those like you).
It's quite possible that your values are not typical of their customers, or their customers don't care about the values of the owners of the craft store they patronize.
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#29Remember, providing birth control to your employees is a sin. But directly contributing to the rise of terrorist groups, or that whole “Thou Shalt Not Steal” thing? Pfffff.
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#30Is it just me, or does Hobby Lobby seem to go out of their way to remind their customers that their values aren't the same as the customers? Seriously, they should go out of business.
> Is it just me, or does Hobby Lobby seem to go out of their way to remind their customers that their values aren't the same as the customers? Seriously, they should go out of business. It's probably just you (or more precisely, those like you). It's quite possible that your values are not typical of their customers, or their customers don't care about the values of the owners of the craft store they patronize.
True enough, but I always got the impression their customers would skew liberal. But that might be my liberal assumptions about who does craft projects showing through. :)