Jawbone is being liquidated as its CEO launches a related health startup

Post by dwighttk » Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 1:59 PM UTC

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There are 3 items on that list, and all 3 have been present in all of Fitbit's competitors for years. Even if Fitbit was first mover on these technologies, they've long since lost any unique ownership of any of these 3.

Read the details. Yes, Apple Watch has some form of heart-rate monitoring. But what's described on that page is continuous all-day monitoring. Fitbit has better technology to better serve the consumer. Yes, you can tell Apple Watch what kind of workout you're about to do and it will record it. But what's described on that page is automatically detecting and recording a type of workout based on motion. Fitbit has bett…

Post by Nursie » Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 2:02 PM UTC

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honest question: why then did no one copy the iPod, and no one has copied the iPhone with any success? as soon as the iPod came out way back in the day, the criticism was that it would soon be copied. No one ever did, and I worked in the music business at the time and was familiar with everything on the market. nothing ever came close, apple made a ton of money. it's a common thing to say that it's not defensible/can…

Wasn't the iPod successful because you could get music online legally and easily for it? Memory is hazy, but I seem to recall that without the iTunes store/application you had to either mess around ripping CDs, or use illegal downloads. The one hardware innovation the iPod had was to use the teeny hard drives just coming on to the market at the time, when everyone else was using flash. Flash was the right solution ul…

Post by valuearb » Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 2:10 PM UTC

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I think the problem with hardware startups is more subtle. Unless you open up a fundamentally new market segment or find a niche application, your product is asking to be commodified. Smartwatches and fitness trackers were too obvious a category and Samsung, Apple, etc. were sure to swoop in and win. There really is no distinguishing feature for Jawbone or Fitbit. Other hardware startups like Anki are doing stuff tha…

> Smartwatches and fitness trackers were too obvious a category and Samsung, Apple, etc. were sure to swoop in and win. They swooped in but wouldn't say that they won. At least in the UK I seem to see more people with a Fitbit than with an Apple Watch.

Post by Agathos » Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 2:14 PM UTC

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honest question: why then did no one copy the iPod, and no one has copied the iPhone with any success? as soon as the iPod came out way back in the day, the criticism was that it would soon be copied. No one ever did, and I worked in the music business at the time and was familiar with everything on the market. nothing ever came close, apple made a ton of money. it's a common thing to say that it's not defensible/can…

Well in a way the iPhone was "copied" in that it obviously influenced the design of competitive smart phones. Apple, however, hasn't rested on their laurels. They have kept innovating. If they had slowed down at all, the others would have eaten their lunch. The ipod was really a story about iTunes, I think, rather than the hardware.

Post by valuearb » Fri, Jul 07, 2017, 2:21 PM UTC

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Why buy a gopro when a $100 china commodity clone will do good enough? The sensors & lenses are going to be the same size, from sony and rubber gaskets with a hard plastic shell is not hard to do.

Why would you buy an iphone if any cheap $100 android phone will do good enough?