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I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

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Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#11

Post by 3uh5weutwehow »

bethebutterfly wrote: post #10

So... I'll chime in if you guys want to talk to me. First, I left unroll.me in 2012 so blame whatever ethics you want but I had nothing to do with that. Second, this post is about female responsibility in the ecosystem. Clearly you guys, except one of you, didn't read the whole post. I posted it on Medium. I know no journalists. The editor in chief of BI reached out to me and said it was one of the best pieces she ha…

thank you for clarifying that you were not connected to the abuses of the unroll.me platform.

My anger is directed at the responsible parties, and I apologize if I have offended you.

If what you worked hard to build was twisted and abused by others then that is truly a painful thing.

may you find peace

Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#12

Post by bethebutterfly »

burntrelish1273 wrote: post #7
3uh5weutwehow wrote: post #4

Unroll.me: You stole peoples mail spools and sold them to the opposition. Selling peoples lyft receipts to Uber -- you should be ashamed of yourself and the legacy of violation that you left in your wake. To me -- this is one of the worst abuses of peoples trust that they granted to you. You are scum. I have no sympathy for any of your antics or tales.

Thanks for bringing this up. Too often, Valley gossip, masquerading as news, is merely which people are friendly with reporters/bloggers and the resulting pieces are usually lazy journalism and one-sided.

I commented on this below...

Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#13

Post by matuszeg »

bethebutterfly wrote: post #10

So... I'll chime in if you guys want to talk to me. First, I left unroll.me in 2012 so blame whatever ethics you want but I had nothing to do with that. Second, this post is about female responsibility in the ecosystem. Clearly you guys, except one of you, didn't read the whole post. I posted it on Medium. I know no journalists. The editor in chief of BI reached out to me and said it was one of the best pieces she ha…

No questions. Just wanted to say I enjoyed what you wrote, particularly how honest you were.

The part about how you had assumed expectations for the meeting that he had not been explicitly aware of was a breath fresh air as I read it. We as people often forget others may not be reading a situation the same as we are. To see it from the others perspective is important.

I did get angry reading about you using your "femininity" as an advantage during your recruiting days. And I would like to offer this analogy. A women using her sexuality as leverage over a man for a career advantage is akin to a man using his career as leverage over a women for sexual advantage.

I see them as nearly the same, because men generally hold the chips in the professional world and women hold it in the dating world. And using that as leverage against another is wrong on both sides.

But I kinda got the feeling you were starting to agree with that. Maybe you do maybe you do not. I appreciate the honesty either way.

Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#14

Post by bethebutterfly »

matuszeg wrote: post #13
bethebutterfly wrote: post #10

So... I'll chime in if you guys want to talk to me. First, I left unroll.me in 2012 so blame whatever ethics you want but I had nothing to do with that. Second, this post is about female responsibility in the ecosystem. Clearly you guys, except one of you, didn't read the whole post. I posted it on Medium. I know no journalists. The editor in chief of BI reached out to me and said it was one of the best pieces she ha…

No questions. Just wanted to say I enjoyed what you wrote, particularly how honest you were. The part about how you had assumed expectations for the meeting that he had not been explicitly aware of was a breath fresh air as I read it. We as people often forget others may not be reading a situation the same as we are. To see it from the others perspective is important. I did get angry reading about you using your "fem…

Oh my whole point of the post was women use their feminity all the time and it actually creates the ecosystem everyone complains about. So it's about owning that part, which is not done often.

Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#15

Post by matuszeg »

bethebutterfly wrote: post #14
matuszeg wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No questions. Just wanted to say I enjoyed what you wrote, particularly how honest you were. The part about how you had assumed expectations for the meeting that he had not been explicitly aware of was a breath fresh air as I read it. We as people often forget others may not be reading a situation the same as we are. To see it from the others perspective is important. I did get angry reading about you using your "fem…

Oh my whole point of the post was women use their feminity all the time and it actually creates the ecosystem everyone complains about. So it's about owning that part, which is not done often.

For some reason that didnt wholely click with me when i read it. Maybe my own biases didn't want to see it. Whatever the reason, hearing you say that definitely clarified things.

Now im stratching my head wondering how it wasnt more clear to me.

I think I have become too accustomed to a tl;dr at the end to tell me how to feel, that Ive gotten worse at reading comprehension.

Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#16

Post by laughfactory »

Wait, wait, wait. She was married and a mother when she had consensual sex with this investor, and explicitly one who would not be investing in her company? And her husband didn't leave her? Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I was too distracted by that to pay attention to the rest of the article.

Bottom line is if you don't want to cheat on your spouse, don't hang out with the opposite sex one on one--especially if there's alcohol in the mix.

Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#17

Post by dmeeker »

laughfactory wrote: post #16

Wait, wait, wait. She was married and a mother when she had consensual sex with this investor, and explicitly one who would not be investing in her company? And her husband didn't leave her? Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I was too distracted by that to pay attention to the rest of the article. Bottom line is if you don't want to cheat on your spouse, don't hang out with the opposite sex one on one--especially if there…

I had the same thought, but then I reminded myself that there have been several years between 2011 and today. She's married now (for less than a year), not when the events described take place.

Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#18

Post by swivelmaster »

3uh5weutwehow wrote: post #11
bethebutterfly wrote: post #10

So... I'll chime in if you guys want to talk to me. First, I left unroll.me in 2012 so blame whatever ethics you want but I had nothing to do with that. Second, this post is about female responsibility in the ecosystem. Clearly you guys, except one of you, didn't read the whole post. I posted it on Medium. I know no journalists. The editor in chief of BI reached out to me and said it was one of the best pieces she ha…

thank you for clarifying that you were not connected to the abuses of the unroll.me platform. My anger is directed at the responsible parties, and I apologize if I have offended you. If what you worked hard to build was twisted and abused by others then that is truly a painful thing. may you find peace

You may want to edit your original comment.

Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#19

Post by gpark3 »

alistproducer2 wrote: post #2

So some how the investor is still painted as at fault here? It's not like this dude was her boss and by her in admission the guy was lording "I'm an investor" over her head. Got to be honest, this piece feels like extended click bait.

i totally agree on this.

Re: I'm a startup founder and I had sex with an investor

#20

Post by swivelmaster »

bethebutterfly wrote: post #10

So... I'll chime in if you guys want to talk to me. First, I left unroll.me in 2012 so blame whatever ethics you want but I had nothing to do with that. Second, this post is about female responsibility in the ecosystem. Clearly you guys, except one of you, didn't read the whole post. I posted it on Medium. I know no journalists. The editor in chief of BI reached out to me and said it was one of the best pieces she ha…

Thanks for the article - as a guy in SV I want to understand these issues, and articles like this are illuminating.

I'm curious - unless I misread, you seem to be making the distinction that once someone is AN investor, then that's basically their role in the ecosystem and they are always acting with the responsibility as such, regardless of whether or not they may someday be or currently are YOUR (generically, as in, in relation to the person they're talking to) investor.

I'm not sure how I feel about this, and I'm curious about how others are interpreting and thinking about this.

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