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Re: SoundCloud cuts jobs, closes SF and London offices

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SoundCloud employee here. If you are hiring, please reach out to people from SoundCloud. The decisions of who to let go were not based on performance. A lot of amazing people, both attitude and technically.

Although we're not in SF or Berlin we (CliniCloud) are actively hiring a backend developer well versed in Golang. If anyone is interested in a change of hemisphere to Melbourne, Australia check it out here - https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/389443269/

Re: SoundCloud cuts jobs, closes SF and London offices

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Their Github org seems to have gone from 45 to 37 members. Not sure what that means, do they only have 37 devs? https://github.com/orgs/soundcloud/people https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Lo9slf... edit: now it's at 35... ouch

those are just the people who publically show they're part of that org.

yeah. You have to chose to be publicly visible as part of an org. I can assure you they have more than 35 devs.

Re: SoundCloud cuts jobs, closes SF and London offices

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I was a director of an engineering department for SoundCloud for a time and left several years ago. Frankly none of this should be surprising: nobody there could figure out a product definition nor a monetization plan. What is more: the engineering organization at SoundCloud at large was completely fractured and suffered from in-fighting. Nobody trusted anyone across organizations. There was no shortage of bullying e…

I was a long-time SC engineer and can confirm, the influx of Brazilians and especially former ThoughtWorks folks was the inflection point in the destruction of the engineering organization. Conniving and intensely political, they absolutely ruined what was a compassionate, innovative, and productive culture.

beware that this is only one side of the story.

I joined after the re-organisations that Phil mentions in the linked post here were well underway. From all I could tell, no one regrets it. At the position I head, I only heard rumours about the struggle that he went through trying to improve the engineering problems there.

Everyone (with perhaps a couple of exceptions) I know personally there (Brazilians or otherwise) was trying very hard to improve things. Their efforts could have been misdirected. Their strategy could have been even counter-productive. The intentions were good, though. And I did see some ill-intentioned people in other places.

I even think that thowaway999 was probably well-intentioned. However, an anonymous director calling people that he disagrees with "conniving and intensely political" and claiming a moral high ground is almost comical.

Re: SoundCloud cuts jobs, closes SF and London offices

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That is so sad for Berlin as well. SoundCloud is one of the companies that made the startup scene an actual scene. I know that SoundCloud's interview process is tough, so I guess it's a good day for companies looking for talent around Berlin.

very true. However, most of the layoffs seem to be in the US, for now...

Re: SoundCloud cuts jobs, closes SF and London offices

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How successful are CBbaby (nowadays) and Bandcamp? I know people who use Bandcamp but I don't know how much of a bubble I'm in.

Insignificant in the grand scheme of things. The music industry is a shade of what it once was, and both CDBaby and Bandcamp are tiny slithers off of that.

Def yeah they are insignificant, but OP said they ran numbers and used the word "successful". I was wondering if that meant something pretty impressive like in the range of $1M a week in rev or something closer to $1M a month in rev, which is still good, but really small.

Re: SoundCloud cuts jobs, closes SF and London offices

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The question isn't 'Will SoundCloud close?' but instead 'When will SoundCloud close?'. Just a very steady decline over the past two years. Their talented team will easily land of their feet anywhere else, it's a shame that someone's so previously unique is fading away due to trying to compete with Spotify. Removing Likes & Groups have really pissed off their community.

I don't think it will cease to exist. It might be acquired at a ridiculously low price even if it's just for the users and the content.

Re: SoundCloud cuts jobs, closes SF and London offices

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i remember being damn impressed by their html5/js-based embedable player. around 2011. even thought about applying.

now i'm out of the fancy shithole that startup land is. prefer working with a few ex-collegues from my hammock.

if you're in need for freelance work and don't bother writing ruby and sometimes php, get in touch. if you're into elixir get in touch right now. no erlang project yet but that can be changed.

Re: SoundCloud cuts jobs, closes SF and London offices

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Could you go into a bit more detail ? What did the Brazilians do / change ? As for ThoughtWorks, I've been at an interview with them and got a strong cultish vibe from the whole thing. Especially when they made it clear that their 'social responsibility pillar' is cool and all, but "we're still a commercial company that needs to make a profit so don't imagine you'll be doing charity here"... I'm curious how the peopl…

I happen to be one of the "incestuous" Brazilian boys. Also, I came from ThoughtWorks. I doubt thowaway999 considers me one of the "bad ones", but I do need to give my two cents here. 1. I fully agree about the fractured organisation with lots of in-fighting. 2. I relate with the statement about "confused hipsters who couldn't differentiate between language du jour and its monads and delivering a product". I think it…

Can you go more into detail about the Thoughtworks culture? I applied there while in Chicago and got a strong sense of that from the culture portion of the interview (after the programming challenge).

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If you're deliberately looking for it — you will definitely find/experience it at some point. In my personal experience, Berlin is very foreigner-friendly.

I'm told both things, actually, in equal measure. That there's ample casual racism compared to London and yet it's incredibly foreigner friendly. I'm married to a German so I have spent a lot of time in Germany, just not Berlin yet. No idea why my question was downvoted, I was quite interested to hear what the poster had to say about the scene.

Berlin can be quite different from the rest of Germany. I haven't seen any sign of racism here at all, especially in the start-up scene.

Re: SoundCloud cuts jobs, closes SF and London offices

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It's been a downhill trend ever since trending likes were replaced by reposts. Trending likes actually showed which tunes my friends found most interesting. Reposts allowed a single user to spam a feed with their personal taste. Then repost bots were allowed to require repost to unlock a free download and now discovery on SoundCloud is almost dead. My friends who are successful producers but refuse to play the bot an…

Meanwhile Bandcamp is killing it with discovery, something they used to be notoriously bad at.
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