Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
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Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
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Re: Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
#2Hmmm. This changes things. Happy to see Google in the hot seat for once.
Re: Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
#3Kalanick was absolutely right to be panicking about self driving cars. The reason we pay a little more for taxis and ubers is that we have to pay for the person driving the cars. With a self driving taxi service, and no need to pay for a driver, the cost of hiring a ride would become much cheaper disrupting uber's business.
* This post was Edited in reply to comment with an edit deleting criticism about intellectual property
Re: Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
#4Kalanick was absolutely right to be panicking about self driving cars. The reason we pay a little more for taxis and ubers is that we have to pay for the person driving the cars. With a self driving taxi service, and no need to pay for a driver, the cost of hiring a ride would become much cheaper disrupting uber's business. * This post was Edited in reply to comment with an edit deleting criticism about intellectual…
Could you please keep your statements truthful. There is no proof that Kalanick or Uber stole anything from Waymo. There is an ongoing and unresolved court case to determine that. It's only appropriate to make such a statement, if it's proven that Uber stole anything. This is HN not reddit.
Thus far, all we know is that Levandowsky alledgedly took files as leverage to make sure Google paid him the bonuses Google was late on, but he was expressively forbidden by Kalanick from bringing any of those files to Uber. All the discovery performed so far has turned up zero evidence that any files from Waymo ended up at Uber.
It's not uncommon for legacy companies to sue newer, more nimble and more promising companies over IP issues when they lose star performers. It also happened to Google when Paypal sued them for trade secret theft when promising senior talent left Paypal to join Google Wallet:
https://techcrunch.com/2011/05/26/paypal-lawsuit-google/
It's perfectly okay to recruit promising talent from other companies with better offers so long as the recruiting company keeps everything kosher via due diligence that ensures the talent does not bring intellectual property from the previous employer to the new company. All evidence made public thus far suggests the Uber did its due diligence here and made sure nothing belonging to Waymo made its way to Uber.
Re: Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
#5Kalanick was absolutely right to be panicking about self driving cars. The reason we pay a little more for taxis and ubers is that we have to pay for the person driving the cars. With a self driving taxi service, and no need to pay for a driver, the cost of hiring a ride would become much cheaper disrupting uber's business. * This post was Edited in reply to comment with an edit deleting criticism about intellectual…
Could you please keep your statements truthful. There is no proof that Kalanick or Uber stole anything from Waymo. There is an ongoing and unresolved court case to determine that. It's only appropriate to make such a statement, if it's proven that Uber stole anything. This is HN not reddit. Thus far, all we know is that Levandowsky alledgedly took files as leverage to make sure Google paid him the bonuses Google was…
That's a fair point, I edited my comment to get rid of the part about intellectual property violations in response to your comment.
Re: Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
#6Kalanick was absolutely right to be panicking about self driving cars. The reason we pay a little more for taxis and ubers is that we have to pay for the person driving the cars. With a self driving taxi service, and no need to pay for a driver, the cost of hiring a ride would become much cheaper disrupting uber's business. * This post was Edited in reply to comment with an edit deleting criticism about intellectual…
Could you please keep your statements truthful. There is no proof that Kalanick or Uber stole anything from Waymo. There is an ongoing and unresolved court case to determine that. It's only appropriate to make such a statement, if it's proven that Uber stole anything. This is HN not reddit. Thus far, all we know is that Levandowsky alledgedly took files as leverage to make sure Google paid him the bonuses Google was…
Are you a bot? The comment you replied to made no mention of Waymo or stealing.
Re: Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you please keep your statements truthful. There is no proof that Kalanick or Uber stole anything from Waymo. There is an ongoing and unresolved court case to determine that. It's only appropriate to make such a statement, if it's proven that Uber stole anything. This is HN not reddit. Thus far, all we know is that Levandowsky alledgedly took files as leverage to make sure Google paid him the bonuses Google was…
Are you a bot? The comment you replied to made no mention of Waymo or stealing.
No, not a bot. The original comment made allegations of IP theft by Kalanick. It has since been edited.
Re: Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you please keep your statements truthful. There is no proof that Kalanick or Uber stole anything from Waymo. There is an ongoing and unresolved court case to determine that. It's only appropriate to make such a statement, if it's proven that Uber stole anything. This is HN not reddit. Thus far, all we know is that Levandowsky alledgedly took files as leverage to make sure Google paid him the bonuses Google was…
Are you a bot? The comment you replied to made no mention of Waymo or stealing.
No he's not a bot, I deleted the part he criticized because I thought his criticism was fair, I indicated that in my reply to him.
Re: Emails show Kalanick's suspicions about Google's self-driving cars
#9How unusual is it for venture units like this to collect data from the companies they've invested in and then scale up competitors to the successful ones?