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Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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nice hijacking the thread.

I fail to see how providing exactly what the thread requested counts as "hijacking".

I offer the same service...

versus adding some value.

- challenges they ran into - it's working for them or not.

it's just a blatant ad.

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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I've almost hired full teams for my clients a few times as a recruiter. There tend to be a couple issues with this model. For one, what if the hiring company interviews the team and wants 7 of the 10? The team has to make a decision to either look for work where they can all be on the team, or abandon members. The other issue is timing. The team members need to all be available at (or around) the same time, and they…

Yeah, I've tried to keep a team together an leave a toxic employer. People just aren't interested. It's very rare that the need (or expectations) line up exactly.

Seems like this is better for freelancing when you can sell a solution and maintain autonomy in how you produce that solution.

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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Please checkout our startup: https://www.superteam.io/ We're currently accepting closed beta testers. We're a platform designed to create teams with freelancers. Our mission is to make freelancing easy as possible, through team collaboration and specialization.

I looked at the website and I couldn't figure out what you actually offer. Is it just a way to organize a team of freelancers? Or do you also provide client leads?

Yes. During our beta, we will focus on organizing teams. Our platform will have emphasis on matchmaking, with enhanced personal profiles to make it easier to find/join teams. We will be introducing client leads when we officially launch, it will become a marketplace to showcase teams with projects.

The bigger picture is to allow teams to "grow together" which is to showcase the work they've done together as a team. We want to have team-based portfolios to make hiring choices easier for companies.

We feel synergy is an essential part of effective teams, and we are putting a lot of emphasis on showing that.

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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Stripe does this with BYOT: https://stripe.com/blog/bring-your-own-team I've also worked at multiple organizations now where a great trick is to hire one "influencer" and then slowly hire everyone they know.

Interesting! I wonder how many teams they have hired this way. Any followups on this?

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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Here's a company [1] that recruits whole teams instead of individuals. I got a job offer from them, but ended up taking a different contract with another company. However, they're pretty solid and professional.

[1] https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/10243022/

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

#96

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The market for custom software developers is built in a way that tricksters inevitably outcompete honest people. I.e. any sufficiently attractively looking profile on a freelance developer on any freelance site is likely someone to actually, avoid. They know what they are doing very well, that is their bread, they do it whole their lives, and there is absolutely no chance an outsider can beat them i that game.

I see your point: people who market themselves better do better, regardless of their skillset to back up their claims. Which happens a lot everywhere, not just with programmers. But it should be relatively easy to beat the scammers, learn how to market yourself properly, get testimonials to back up your claims, build your marketing message to answer questions and problems that your potential customers have. In other…

Yes, but then you are in the game. And soon you spend more energy and time in building your marketing instead of the things which made you a good developer... It is the market logic which drives us to solutions which aren't really one (but we think we are forced to).

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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To take the proposed model to it's logical extreme, what if you only want 3/10, 2/10, 1/10? Now you're suddenly back to hiring individuals again. The whole point of hiring a team is that you aren't evaluating individual performance or skills; you're evaluating the groups' performance and skills. If the team is good, the people who can't immediately be helpful will re-train so that they can provide skills that are use…

Right, only wanting to hire 7/10 means the company thinks they're better at evaluating team members in a single interview than the team is at evaluating its members after working together. Or they just can't afford a team that large, and it's not the right one for them.

Unless everyone in the team did the same job it's pretty likely you'd end up in a situation of "we really like you 7 for the application layer, but we have a great front end team already, so we don't need you 3. So, do the 7 of you want a job?"

That seems like a best-case scenario to me, unless the team is 3-4 people and someone is looking to create a capability or product from scratch.

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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Wait, isn’t HN a platform where one could find teams? Let’s try it... If you are a team good at the things in my profile or on my LinkedIn, and would be interested to become full time employees in exchange for a guaranteed global scale “customer” problem to solve for one of 5 largest global banks – I will hire you. If this works, we’ll report back here that HN can be a match maker between companies and entire dev tea…

Doesn't work like that. OP is talking about a company that would assemble a team that matches those requirements, not one that finds teams that already exist somewhere.

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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Please checkout our startup: https://www.superteam.io/ We're currently accepting closed beta testers. We're a platform designed to create teams with freelancers. Our mission is to make freelancing easy as possible, through team collaboration and specialization.

I've seen at least one other that I won't link because I know the founders and they are dishonest and slightly insane. Suffice it to say, there is a burgeoning market for this service.

We started this service because we felt a strong need for it. As a software engineer working in Bay Area, I've always wanted to freelance because it's too much of a burden living here. I've thought about applying to remote jobs, but freelancing feels like it has more freedom.

We have a strong mission, and we want to make it easy and accessible for anyone that wants to become a freelancer. The answer is through teams, with specialization, collaboration, and having that comparative advantage will allow teams to thrive.

Re: Ask HN: What about a platform for hiring teams instead of individuals?

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Here's a company [1] that recruits whole teams instead of individuals. I got a job offer from them, but ended up taking a different contract with another company. However, they're pretty solid and professional. [1] https://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/10243022/

Just for the sake of clarity: This company recruits individuals with certain skills that match requirements from a hiring company. It doesn't find already assembled teams, but builds them and makes sure they can work together.

I think there's a lot of misinterpretation about what the OP meant.

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