Nearly all of the top-level comments thus far are disgusting and shameful. What is wrong with this place?
Others are speaking up about discrimination at Tesla
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#22I was wondering when the other shoe was going to drop. Now both of the "star" SV CEOs who had the gall to constructively engage with the administration are under fire for "harassment". I wonder how Thiel has managed to avoid these Alinsky playbook tactics so far. In any company of tens of thousands of people, you can always find a few people who are mistreated (even at such bastions of social justice as Google and Mi…
The fact that this comment hasn't been downvoted into oblivion yet (in fact, it may be the top comment on this thread right now) is galling.
I'll go ahead and emphatically state that I did down-vote this, because chalking up someone being mistreated in the workforce to a coordinated liberal agenda will get you banned from the comment section on most real news websites, but apparently it makes you a fuckin' hero around here.
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#23> She also recalled receiving a T-shirt as a new employee that depicted Musk as a superhero
Wow. I think that would have me running for the door if that happened to me. I know CEO egos are big but that's seriously narcissistic.
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#24Nearly all of the top-level comments thus far are disgusting and shameful. What is wrong with this place?
It's summertime and the alt-right kids have a lot more free time now
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#25Nearly all of the top-level comments thus far are disgusting and shameful. What is wrong with this place?
Fatigue of the subject possibly.
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#27Nearly all of the top-level comments thus far are disgusting and shameful. What is wrong with this place?
What's wrong with this place? What's wrong with this world is the question you should be asking, it's not a mistake that sexual harassment has flourished among a population that (clearly -- read the posts in this thread) also discounts it's very legitimacy.
Y'alls parents didn't raise you right.
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#28https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/1/15724520/tesla-fires-femal... >Tesla fired the female engineer who earlier this year publicly made claims about “unwanted and pervasive harassment” at the electric carmaker, according to The Guardian. Tesla says it was justified in firing the engineer, AJ Vandermeyden, because her accusations were false, but Vandermeyden’s lawyers allege that it amounts to retaliation. I don't mean t…
If the individual were under-performing then that would have been adequate reason to fire them; there would be no need to fire them in retaliation for making the accusation. It certainly would have been a better reason for Tesla to provide, should they care at all about the sensitivity of their public image. Do you have evidence to support your speculation?
>If the individual were under-performing then that would have been adequate reason to fire them
Not if they had a claim of harassment, which is my point. Now any firing looks like retaliation, similarly to what is being claimed by Vandermeyden's lawyer. According to Tesla, she was fired for false accusations of harassment, as proven by an independent third party investigation (reported in the link). But because she made the claims of harassment, she's been immunized against the repercussions of making false claims, at least in the realm of public opinion. Now the burden is on Tesla to use their time and resources to prove that something didn't happen in order to justify her termination, not the other way around.
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#29I was wondering when the other shoe was going to drop. Now both of the "star" SV CEOs who had the gall to constructively engage with the administration are under fire for "harassment". I wonder how Thiel has managed to avoid these Alinsky playbook tactics so far. In any company of tens of thousands of people, you can always find a few people who are mistreated (even at such bastions of social justice as Google and Mi…
> In any company of tens of thousands of people, you can always find a few people who are mistreated
It's how the company handles these situations that matters. If the guy who harassed Susan Fowler was fired instead of promoted, Kalanick would probably still have his job.
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#30https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/1/15724520/tesla-fires-femal... >Tesla fired the female engineer who earlier this year publicly made claims about “unwanted and pervasive harassment” at the electric carmaker, according to The Guardian. Tesla says it was justified in firing the engineer, AJ Vandermeyden, because her accusations were false, but Vandermeyden’s lawyers allege that it amounts to retaliation. I don't mean t…
> it makes the most sense to allege some kind of harassment if you feel you are underperforming in your job and wish to get ahead
That's true for men as much for women. But I have not seen that argument used for men. So, I don't say that you are discriminating against women, as I don't know if you use this argument also when we talk about men, but you should understand that without further information it looks like you are telling us that "women" do this while "men" don't what is ridiculous from a "game theory perspective" as the situation is exactly the same.