Others are speaking up about discrimination at Tesla
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Others are speaking up about discrimination at Tesla
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#2I was wondering when the other shoe was going to drop. Now both of the "star" SV CEOs who had the gall to constructively engage with the administration are under fire for "harassment". I wonder how Thiel has managed to avoid these Alinsky playbook tactics so far.
In any company of tens of thousands of people, you can always find a few people who are mistreated (even at such bastions of social justice as Google and Microsoft, see the recent news about Google's internal mailing list). The strategy in this case seems to be to take these few cases, and blow them completely out of proportion in social media to ensure political compliance from the CEO, or in this case just to punish for previous non-compliance. Not even the second coming of Steve Jobs is immune.
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#3Is it me or we are reading more and more about abuses ? So I'd say this or that company is not specifically problematic, but it's just women tend to be more vocal about the "difficulties" they encounter on the work place (I don't know how to express the fact that I think they are harassed but at the same time, being European, I'm not sure that what I have in mind is the same for those who read this; in my experience the harassment is subtle, it's more like "a subtle dose of socially accepted misogyny" (which I personally find unacceptable (I'm a man :) )
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#4> We have had a few cases at Tesla where someone in a less represented group was actually given a job or promoted over more qualified highly represented candidates
A few cases . . . unfortunately this is the world we live in, diversity over all else. Must be demoralizing to be that engineer passed over because they weren't in the right less represented group.
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#5Vandermeyden seems to be looking for a big payout and is drumming up the press. Too bad the Guaradian hasn't found additional cases to support the title. Seems like the Guardian is milking this one story for as long as they can.
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#6Is it me or we are reading more and more about abuses ? So I'd say this or that company is not specifically problematic, but it's just women tend to be more vocal about the "difficulties" they encounter on the work place (I don't know how to express the fact that I think they are harassed but at the same time, being European, I'm not sure that what I have in mind is the same for those who read this; in my experience…
I think for years women felt they didn't have a voice, so it's a bit of a tidal wave right now. Hopefully this flood will elicit enough change to make the changes needed so we hear less of it in the future for the right reasons.
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#7> We have had a few cases at Tesla where someone in a less represented group was actually given a job or promoted over more qualified highly represented candidates A few cases . . . unfortunately this is the world we live in, diversity over all else. Must be demoralizing to be that engineer passed over because they weren't in the right less represented group.
It's interesting from Darwinian perspective; that as a species we've produced a system that could select a "less fit" candidate. I wonder if there are other examples of this type of behaviour in nature or if we're the first?
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#8I was wondering when the other shoe was going to drop. Now both of the "star" SV CEOs who had the gall to constructively engage with the administration are under fire for "harassment". I wonder how Thiel has managed to avoid these Alinsky playbook tactics so far. In any company of tens of thousands of people, you can always find a few people who are mistreated (even at such bastions of social justice as Google and Mi…
> I wonder how Thiel has managed to avoid these Alinsky playbook tactics so far.
Partly by being gay, partly by "that shoe dropped a while ago." He co-authored a book titled The Diversity Myth: Multiculturalism and the Politics of Intolerance at Stanford in 1995.
Per wiki:
> In 2016, Thiel apologized for two statements he made in the book: 1) "The purpose of the rape crisis movement seems as much about vilifying men as about raising 'awareness'" and 2) "But since a multicultural rape charge may indicate nothing more than belated regret, a woman might 'realize' that she had been 'raped' the next day or even many days later." He stated: "More than two decades ago, I co-wrote a book with several insensitive, crudely argued statements. As I’ve said before, I wish I’d never written those things. I’m sorry for it. Rape in all forms is a crime. I regret writing passages that have been taken to suggest otherwise."
Re: Others are speaking up about discrimination at Tesla
#9I was wondering when the other shoe was going to drop. Now both of the "star" SV CEOs who had the gall to constructively engage with the administration are under fire for "harassment". I wonder how Thiel has managed to avoid these Alinsky playbook tactics so far. In any company of tens of thousands of people, you can always find a few people who are mistreated (even at such bastions of social justice as Google and Mi…
> I wonder how Thiel has managed to avoid these Alinsky playbook tactics so far.
Because your conspiracy theories aren't real.
Re: Others are speaking up about discrimination at Tesla
#10Is it me or we are reading more and more about abuses ? So I'd say this or that company is not specifically problematic, but it's just women tend to be more vocal about the "difficulties" they encounter on the work place (I don't know how to express the fact that I think they are harassed but at the same time, being European, I'm not sure that what I have in mind is the same for those who read this; in my experience…
1.) More women are speaking out as they feel they have a voice.
2.) More women are in the higher positions so other women feel someone at the top will listen to them.