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US military intelligence agencies have influenced over 1,800 movies and TV shows

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I am sure "24" was pure propaganda. And "West Wing". I enjoyed them though, at the time. But now they would just revolt me.

I never watched west wing, how did it seem like propoganda, and what message did it send?

If it was propaganda it must be Democratic propaganda, because it's view of Washington was recognisable as quite close to the Democratic worldview.

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So in exchange for production support, DOD and IC reserve the right to back out if certain topics are broached, or if they’re represented in a way they don’t approve of. The movies and tv shows come to them, and they’re subsequently influenced as part of the deal. Am I reading this correctly? They’ve really tried to make it scary but I’m left feeling “well, yeah I guess that makes sense, sucks tho I guess”...

I agree the article overplays it. Any organization, be it governmental, corporate or private, would probably do the same. If you want their help and they aren't in the business of movie making, are going to probably refuse it if it casts them in a light they don't like. Hollywood is fully capable, I'm certain, of providing mock-ups and stand ins for much of what the military provides. I'm sure when it comes to the bo…

You don't need an actual vast conspiracy for the world to behave as if one exists, through emergent effects. Discrimination against blacks, for instance; okay, there was an evil cabal there (the KKK), but it wasn't required for the overall effect, which emerged out of large numbers of individuals acting in what they believed was their own self-interest.

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When I've been telling everyone that James Bond and other similar movies serve the same role as military parades in Soviet-block countries, and heavily scripted by the military, they told me that this is another conspiracy theory and I must be plainly wrong. I wasn't.

That's how you know the propaganda's working, when it becomes part of daily life and people deny it's propaganda. Probably also because they have other associations with the word.

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With use of computer graphics they can do more movies without the military interference.

Can they? Isn't the depiction of (real / existing) military hardware protected by idk, trademarks and the like? I mean all bets are off if it's all fantasy weaponry and organizations (like idk, in Starship Troopers).

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As a movie buff this doesn't surprise me at all. I'm still waiting for THE movie about the US intervention in Iraq, the same kind of movies that Apocalypse Now, "The Deer Hunter" and even Rambo I were for the Vietnam war. I think my wait will be in vain.

> I'm still waiting for THE movie about the US intervention in Iraq, the same kind of movies that Apocalypse Now, "The Deer Hunter" and even Rambo I were for the Vietnam war. I think my wait will be in vain.

Try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Kill_(miniseries)

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As a movie buff this doesn't surprise me at all. I'm still waiting for THE movie about the US intervention in Iraq, the same kind of movies that Apocalypse Now, "The Deer Hunter" and even Rambo I were for the Vietnam war. I think my wait will be in vain.

The Hurt Locker ?

I've found it to be a typical example of American propaganda.

Some good reasons given here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-militarization-of-hollywood...

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As a movie buff this doesn't surprise me at all. I'm still waiting for THE movie about the US intervention in Iraq, the same kind of movies that Apocalypse Now, "The Deer Hunter" and even Rambo I were for the Vietnam war. I think my wait will be in vain.

It won't happen because Apocalypse Now was feeding off massive cultural backlash against the Vietnam War, and the backlash against the current wars has always been much weaker. Probably because people aren't getting drafted this time.

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Three thoughts on this article:

IMO the author fails to draw the connection to decades of cop shows teaching people that it's ok for cops to break procedure left and right because that's how work gets done.

The bit on military suicide make sense. The more you talk about something the more acceptable it becomes. It makes sense that people who's job is to influence opinion don't want to talk about it.

Technical and subject matter advisors from "industry" aren't worthless. Terrorists in Hollywood movies have been taking batteries out of cell phones when not in use since the early 2000s.

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With use of computer graphics they can do more movies without the military interference.

Can they? Isn't the depiction of (real / existing) military hardware protected by idk, trademarks and the like? I mean all bets are off if it's all fantasy weaponry and organizations (like idk, in Starship Troopers).

No it is not. The depiction of branded assets is fair game. Mentioning the branded goods is also fair game, but more dangerous because in some cases it might be construed as slander and slander is actionable grounds for a lawsuit. (Famously, LVMH sued Warner Bros successfully when they used a fake LV handbag as a prop and a character said "This is a Louis Vuitton".)
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