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US military intelligence agencies have influenced over 1,800 movies and TV shows

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When I've been telling everyone that James Bond and other similar movies serve the same role as military parades in Soviet-block countries, and heavily scripted by the military, they told me that this is another conspiracy theory and I must be plainly wrong. I wasn't.

This was documented 30 years ago after the release of Top Gun.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-05/entertainment/ca-2040...

Not sure why you wouldn't illustrate your argument with this information.

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When I've been telling everyone that James Bond and other similar movies serve the same role as military parades in Soviet-block countries, and heavily scripted by the military, they told me that this is another conspiracy theory and I must be plainly wrong. I wasn't.

Nah, I'm pretty sure everyone familiar with the subject knows that movie industry is an effective propaganda tool and has been used for this since forever for everything: military, police, democratic values. You just can't hide propaganda even if you want to.

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As a movie buff this doesn't surprise me at all. I'm still waiting for THE movie about the US intervention in Iraq, the same kind of movies that Apocalypse Now, "The Deer Hunter" and even Rambo I were for the Vietnam war. I think my wait will be in vain.

Wasn't Iraq rather overshadowed by the subsequent events in Afghanistan which does have some superb movies (Kajaki, Restrepo, Korengal, Bitter Lake....).

All due respect to those movies (3 of them which appear to be documentaries) but they have not had the same cultural impact as a movie like Apocalypse Now had back in its time. It's a shame, I'd rather a director like Nolan had made a movie about Iraq or Afghanistan instead of Dunkirk, the same as Coppola had made Apocalypse Now just a couple of years after he had directed the first two Godfather movies. That way you'd be 100% certain that said film and its vision on the realities of current war would make it to almost all the cinemas around the world.

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As a movie buff this doesn't surprise me at all. I'm still waiting for THE movie about the US intervention in Iraq, the same kind of movies that Apocalypse Now, "The Deer Hunter" and even Rambo I were for the Vietnam war. I think my wait will be in vain.

Wasn't Iraq rather overshadowed by the subsequent events in Afghanistan which does have some superb movies (Kajaki, Restrepo, Korengal, Bitter Lake....).

Subsequent? Afghanistan was first.

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As a movie buff this doesn't surprise me at all. I'm still waiting for THE movie about the US intervention in Iraq, the same kind of movies that Apocalypse Now, "The Deer Hunter" and even Rambo I were for the Vietnam war. I think my wait will be in vain.

The Hurt Locker ?

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When I've been telling everyone that James Bond and other similar movies serve the same role as military parades in Soviet-block countries, and heavily scripted by the military, they told me that this is another conspiracy theory and I must be plainly wrong. I wasn't.

Nah, I'm pretty sure everyone familiar with the subject knows that movie industry is an effective propaganda tool and has been used for this since forever for everything: military, police, democratic values. You just can't hide propaganda even if you want to.

On the contrary, in my experience most people believe that propoganda being used within western countries is a conspiracy theory.

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I am sure "24" was pure propaganda. And "West Wing". I enjoyed them though, at the time. But now they would just revolt me.

I never watched west wing, how did it seem like propoganda, and what message did it send?

Re: US military intelligence agencies have influenced over 1,800 movies and TV shows

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When I've been telling everyone that James Bond and other similar movies serve the same role as military parades in Soviet-block countries, and heavily scripted by the military, they told me that this is another conspiracy theory and I must be plainly wrong. I wasn't.

Nah, I'm pretty sure everyone familiar with the subject knows that movie industry is an effective propaganda tool and has been used for this since forever for everything: military, police, democratic values. You just can't hide propaganda even if you want to.

but it's yes, most people are not familiar with the subject. And you can hide propaganda. Only a very few people are familiar with what goes on. It needs journalism similar to the featured article to raise the awareness of more people.

Consider that idea flawed? Then think about Snowden's revelations and the comments on HN before and afterwards.

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