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Switzerland government raises investment funds to support Swiss startups

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Re: Switzerland government raises investment funds to support Swiss startups

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Actually, the Swiss franc is at one of its lowest points in the 10Y view [1] A Swiss franc is traded at roughly 1.09 Euros, I would say significant, sure, but not a deal breaker in high-tech industries. If we were talking about commoditized products I would have to agree but in our industries this is just not the case. [1]: http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=CHF&view=10Y

It's the other way around: EUR/CHF=1.09 means 1EUR=1.09CHF. > [2011 to 2015] the Euro was exchanging [at] CHF1.20. [Then] the exchange rate stabilised to between CHF1.05 and CHF1.08 to the Euro, due in large part to further intervention from the SNB which discreetly set about buying up foreign currency to ensure the franc did [rise to] new heights https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/money--money--money_sw...

There's a slight error there. SNB was buying foreign currency to lower the CHF exchange rate in an effort to protect the Swiss export industry.

Re: Switzerland government raises investment funds to support Swiss startups

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Although it is nice to have more funds available, which increases the competition among VCs, the main point is not lack of funds. I used to say that a good VC brings you two important things: money and market. Money alone doesn't bring you much (don't get me wrong ..). In my eyes that is the main issue in the startup scenario in Switzerland: lack of market. Having a population of about 8 million people means that you…

> Although it is nice to have more funds available, which increases the competition among VCs, the main point is not lack of funds. I agree on that, on the other hand I don't see the lack of market as a big problem. I like to take Spotify as example, it started in Sweden, which is a market comparable to the Swiss one in terms of size, but after the first prototypes and early versions, it went global almost immediatel…

Switzerland aims to position itself as a FinTech hub though, where location is a huge issue due to regulation. E.g. if you're based in the EU you a 'passport' which lets you use your banking license in other markets; in Switzerland you don't.

In general the FinTech market is not (yet) cross-border friendly which is why the current prime startups here are either high-margin insurance brokers or our friends in the cryptovalley.

Re: Switzerland government raises investment funds to support Swiss startups

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I dont think that Switzerland is more expensive than say San Francisco... While it is true that is one of the most expensive European countries the cost of living is very close to the one in the bay area...

I can confirm. Just moved from Zurich to San Francisco. Pretty much everything except rent is cheaper in San Francisco (food can be up to half price of what I paid in Zurich) but rent being such a major expense, it ends up being similar. Salaries are a bit higher in Switzerland though so one would save more on average there.

And taxes are a lot lower!

Re: Switzerland government raises investment funds to support Swiss startups

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I dont think that Switzerland is more expensive than say San Francisco... While it is true that is one of the most expensive European countries the cost of living is very close to the one in the bay area...

It is not much a matter of cost of living but rather cost of the Swiss Franc versus other currencies. Currently, the swiss Franc is very strong, therefore making any Swiss product expensive to the exterior. It can become a huge problem for an economy based on trading with neighbors.

Start-ups mostly do not generate profits. Yeah, losses might increase but who in start-ups care about say 5% less revenue due to currency.

Re: Switzerland government raises investment funds to support Swiss startups

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Although it is nice to have more funds available, which increases the competition among VCs, the main point is not lack of funds. I used to say that a good VC brings you two important things: money and market. Money alone doesn't bring you much (don't get me wrong ..). In my eyes that is the main issue in the startup scenario in Switzerland: lack of market. Having a population of about 8 million people means that you…

> Although it is nice to have more funds available, which increases the competition among VCs, the main point is not lack of funds. I agree on that, on the other hand I don't see the lack of market as a big problem. I like to take Spotify as example, it started in Sweden, which is a market comparable to the Swiss one in terms of size, but after the first prototypes and early versions, it went global almost immediatel…

Those Swedish startups didn't form out of nothing. Not only was Sweden early when it comes to things like personal computers, internet access and English, but also notable in many other areas. Almost all successful Swedish companies are at least partly related to gaming, music or telecom. That stems from a rather long organic history of the demoscene, artists and industry. Attitude might have something to do with, but few people would say that the Swedish attitude is anything like what people commonly think is needed for entrepreneurship.

Re: Switzerland government raises investment funds to support Swiss startups

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There are a lot of political initiatives, corporate accelerators etc going on at the moment but they don’t fix the inherent problem here in Switzerland: Cost of living is absurdly high, unemployment is low and life is just really convenient. Why risk it all for a startup when you can just cruise through life with a 42h-week and long lunches at a bank and save a ridiculous amount of money doing so.

Because of this cultural issue and the fact that a overproportional number of very large corporates are based in Switzerland, the whole ecosystem is geared towards that. One part is certainly that there is basically no VC money available but just throwing a bunch of money at it won’t fix the underlying issues.

Re: Switzerland government raises investment funds to support Swiss startups

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Liberalizing their immigration laws that prevent availability of talent for startups (and everyone else) is a better solution to this problem than just throwing together a giant pile of dumb money. But that's going to require some pretty existential changes to Switzerland that I sincerely doubt they're actually interested in making.

Re: Switzerland government raises investment funds to support Swiss startups

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There are a lot of political initiatives, corporate accelerators etc going on at the moment but they don’t fix the inherent problem here in Switzerland: Cost of living is absurdly high, unemployment is low and life is just really convenient. Why risk it all for a startup when you can just cruise through life with a 42h-week and long lunches at a bank and save a ridiculous amount of money doing so. Because of this cul…

I don't see anything wrong with that. We don't need an Uber here. There are still a lot of startups and yes things move more slowly and carefully but for the better of everyone.

The culture is what makes Switzerland such a nice place to live.

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