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Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by etiam »

4684499 wrote: post #69
ryan-allen wrote: post #40

I think EFF's privacy badger [0] can block this kind of tracking, depending on how sophsticated their tracking methods are. [0] https://www.eff.org/privacybadger

Eff's approach often makes me feel they acquiesce that users should be the one hiding from those corporations. Why are we making shields instead of them putting guns down?

Is it instead? Since Facebook and their ilk are surveilling us largely out of greed, surely making the work less profitable for them has some merit as a tool for counter? As is often the case, a true solution probably does need to be political, but a technical one is valuable as a band-aid until/unless that can be achieved.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by icelancer »

cooper12 wrote: post #137
icebraining wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This argument is not even wrong.

It's disingenuous because it reduced a social issue to that of particle physics. It's like me assaulting someone and saying "wow, they sure couldn't handle a collection of atoms exerting momentum on their face", or calling a tornado "some gusts of wind", or other ridiculous things.

That's exactly what the parent commenter means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by makecheck »

Sometimes I think people need a little more "Black Mirror" to see how bad this is. One of the episodes has random people basically constantly looking at and filming a woman everywhere; certainly no less than what Facebook does every day, yet somehow it doesn't seem weird to anyone?

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by rubicon33 »

I wish someone would build hardware that protected against this. A router for example that filtered all outbound traffic and blocked specific routes and packets destined for tracking.

Yes, you could do that all on the computer itself, no need to run it on the router. I guess the benefit of having it all on a router is that it would be a plug and play solution for the privacy conscious but technically limited individual.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by Timothee »

xz0r wrote: post #30
benevol wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't opening several "Private Windows" achieve the same situation? What are the differences?

Several private windows share the cookies. Try logging into a website in a private window and open that website in another private window and you will be logged in.

Which is a significant flaw in the way incognito windows work with Chrome. If you have a minimized or hidden incognito window, opening a new one beats the purpose of incognito windows…

At the least, you could imagine having a shared session for all the tabs in a same window. But a new incognito window should be clear of any history.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by snakeanus »

andrewaylett wrote: post #120
m_eiman wrote: post #15

Firefox has a pretty neat feature I discovered recently: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Contextual_Identity_Projec... It lets you run multiple sessions in one window, where each tab belongs to a specific session with separated cookies and such. I've got a bunch of tabs where I'm logged in to Facebook, another set where I'm logged in to Google and the rest of them where I'm not logged in to either. Of course they c…

Privacy Badger is also good for things like this: you can be logged into Facebook, but Privacy Badger will block requests to Facebook from third-party sites. https://www.eff.org/privacybadger

You can also do that with uMatrix as well as with uBlock Origin.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by bguillet »

rubicon33 wrote: post #155

I wish someone would build hardware that protected against this. A router for example that filtered all outbound traffic and blocked specific routes and packets destined for tracking. Yes, you could do that all on the computer itself, no need to run it on the router. I guess the benefit of having it all on a router is that it would be a plug and play solution for the privacy conscious but technically limited individu…

Pi-hole (https://pi-hole.net/) does something like this. It's not plug'n'play though.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

I usually stick with Safari as my browser, but Privacy Badger isn't available for it, so I use "Facebook Disconnect." Does anyone know how well it really works? (I don't have an account, and I don't want them tracking my activity for my old profile.) I'm surprised I haven't grep'ed anything about this extension in the discussion thus far, which makes me nervous.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by theWatcher37 »

threecheese wrote: post #104
tagawa wrote: post #88

The article or the judge (not sure which) suggests using incognito mode. While this will keep browsing history private for a particular session, it's only effective locally. Tracking from the server is still possible either through being logged in or through browser fingerprinting, which is surprisingly accurate. Here's a good demo which uses fingerprinting to show how ineffective incognito mode is: http://www.nothin…

How does a user defend against this, without resorting to a nuclear option like Tor?

It's past time for Firefox to include tor as it's private browsing mode.

Maybe put it at a tier above private, "ghost" mode.

This BS has gone on too long

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