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Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by akerro »

walterbell wrote: post #55

If you delete the Facebook cookie (i.e. are completely logged out including username), then click on a link in an email notification from Facebook, it will silently log you in again, restoring the cookie and web-wide tracking. This can be tested by pasting an email notification link to a new private browsing window.

If you use PrivacyBadger you don't have more facebook cookie on 3rd party websites, so they dont track you.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/privacy-badge...

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/privacy-badger/pke...

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by akerro »

libeclipse wrote: post #3

I have a few questions. 1) “Facebook’s intrusion could have easily been blocked, but plaintiffs chose not to do so,” This seems like a dangerous precedent. So if we can block surveillance attempts and we don't try, then it's our fault? > “The fact that a user’s web browser automatically sends the same information to both parties does not establish that one party intercepted the user’s communication with the other,” T…

>This seems like a dangerous precedent. So if we can block surveillance attempts and we don't try, then it's our fault?

If I can save your life, but choose not to, it's your fault.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by amelius »

walterbell wrote: post #55

If you delete the Facebook cookie (i.e. are completely logged out including username), then click on a link in an email notification from Facebook, it will silently log you in again, restoring the cookie and web-wide tracking. This can be tested by pasting an email notification link to a new private browsing window.

But that can easily be explained as a feature, not a bug.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by walterbell »

akerro wrote: post #61
walterbell wrote: post #55

If you delete the Facebook cookie (i.e. are completely logged out including username), then click on a link in an email notification from Facebook, it will silently log you in again, restoring the cookie and web-wide tracking. This can be tested by pasting an email notification link to a new private browsing window.

If you use PrivacyBadger you don't have more facebook cookie on 3rd party websites, so they dont track you. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/privacy-badge... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/privacy-badger/pke...

How do you login to Facebook when needed, if there is no cookie?

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by kerkeslager »

zdkl wrote: post #50
kerkeslager wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true for me, too. But I can communicate with those people via other means and have found no downside to doing so. I've been Facebook- free for years now.

Preaching to the choir, it's our friends who need convincing!

But they don't need convincing for us to leave Facebook. My friends who have Facebook also have text, email, phone, and sometimes WhatsApp, Signal, and/or Telegram. AFAIK I haven't ever convinced anyone to leave Facebook, but that hasn't been a barrier to me leaving Facebook at all.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by akerro »

GrumpyNl wrote: post #28

Nice, if i don't lock my door, its my fault they steal my things.

> Nice, if i don't lock my door, its my fault they steal my things.

In many, if not most European countries you can get a ticket for not protecting your vehicle. If you leave your car unlocked and someone steals it, it's your fault. Police if have to investigate it etc, but they also give you a ticket, because it not thoughtlessness, they wouldn't have to do it.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by walterbell »

amelius wrote: post #63
walterbell wrote: post #55

If you delete the Facebook cookie (i.e. are completely logged out including username), then click on a link in an email notification from Facebook, it will silently log you in again, restoring the cookie and web-wide tracking. This can be tested by pasting an email notification link to a new private browsing window.

But that can easily be explained as a feature, not a bug.

Most other sites do not automatically transfer your username and password/token from (insecure) email to web. Most other sites require authentication for a fully-logged-out user.

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by sametmax »

akerro wrote: post #62
libeclipse wrote: post #3

I have a few questions. 1) “Facebook’s intrusion could have easily been blocked, but plaintiffs chose not to do so,” This seems like a dangerous precedent. So if we can block surveillance attempts and we don't try, then it's our fault? > “The fact that a user’s web browser automatically sends the same information to both parties does not establish that one party intercepted the user’s communication with the other,” T…

>This seems like a dangerous precedent. So if we can block surveillance attempts and we don't try, then it's our fault? If I can save your life, but choose not to, it's your fault.

Your confusing "letting somebody being harmed because he/she doesn't protect his/herself" and "taking advantage of the fact that somebody is being harmed because he/she doesn't protect his/herself".

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by 4684499 »

ryan-allen wrote: post #40

I think EFF's privacy badger [0] can block this kind of tracking, depending on how sophsticated their tracking methods are. [0] https://www.eff.org/privacybadger

Eff's approach often makes me feel they acquiesce that users should be the one hiding from those corporations. Why are we making shields instead of them putting guns down?

Re: Facebook can track your browsing even after you've logged out, judge says

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Post by sametmax »

zimpenfish wrote: post #26
kerkeslager wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just quit Facebook?

For me, the reason is "Because there are people on Facebook that I want to communicate with".

I don't know any people around me that have facebook that don't have another way to be reached. So there is something else that makes you stay.
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