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Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by svesselov »

richardknop wrote: post #61
bad_user wrote: post #59

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I do wonder what your comment has to do with the freaking topic.

I clicked on the title of this post which links to gitlab repository page. And I was frustrated with the UI while trying to find out more about this project.

Clicking on the title brings you to the project page which shows the latest activity for that project. I can understand being frustrated as you most likely expected to land on a page with files and a readme. Clicking on the Repository tab will bring you to this view. Project owners have the option to make the repository view the default view. It looks as though this was not enabled on this project.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by zingmars »

it33 wrote: post #79
omnimus wrote: post #39

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They also have horrible android client and you have to pay for mobile notifications. I ended up using matrix/riot instead. Much better clients and grows nicely.

Hi omnimus, thanks for the mention. Mattermost has a brand new, open source Android client in beta written in React Native used by thousands of testers: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mattermost... It's greatly improved from the original version and official release is this month. Mattermost mobile notifications aren't a commercial feature, they are just off by default due to privacy (push notifica…

Sadly the Android's react version seems to lack any share features - the app doesn't appear in any 'share to' dialogues, nor can I share pictures or such from the app itself (For example using rocket.chat I can long press on an image and I will be able to share the picture to other apps). The issue appears to only have around 100 combined votes on uservoice (https://mattermost.uservoice.com/forums/306457-general/sugge... + https://mattermost.uservoice.com/forums/306457-general/sugge...) so I'm not holding my breath for this to be implemented anytime soon, but it would be a really useful feature to have for when you need to move graphical assets around and you want to take a quick look on your phone for example.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by suprememoocow »

type0 wrote: post #78
suprememoocow wrote: post #15

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Hi, co-founder of Gitter here. Gitter is not intended to be a replacement for Mattermost, Slack or other team collaboration tools. We see Gitter as a community instead. As such, we're not expecting to see a huge uptake of on-site installations, so the list of required services (es, neo etc) is big compared to other products focused on on-prem. We're hoping that our users will contribute to the main site, Gitter.im. O…

What would be the hardware requirements to run gitter for a couple of hundred accounts?

We haven't done much benchmarking at that end of the scale, but I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't be able to run it on a single server.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by Gudahtt »

suprememoocow wrote: post #57
e12e wrote: post #40

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This is actually the first real project I've come across that uses neo4j - thank you for pointing that out. Given the requirements, I actually think this project looks rather clean between the docker-compose-file and the npm dependencies. I very much doubt it can compete with Mattermost or Rocket.chat for self-host for small organizations - but I'm really happy to see this thing open sourced! I much prefer it to be o…

(Gitter Co-founder here) Unfortunately our neo4j setup as it stands really doesn't scale. At an application-level we're built error-handling to gracefully handle the frequent outages we experience running it. These are probably our fault, rather than a failing in the product, but I've wanted to replace the current neo4j-based suggestion algo with a new one that uses batching/clustering for a while. As soon as I get a…

It looks like you're still using Neo4j 2.3. Have you tried using newer versions of Neo4j? There have been some pretty substantial performance improvements.

Additionally, Neo4j does support clustering with their Enterprise edition. It also has much better tooling (better metrics/logging, backups, etc.). It is AGPL licensed, so there's no reason not to use it really.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by svesselov »

majkinetor wrote: post #66
cmatija wrote: post #53

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Hiya, Anything specific about the UI you'd suggest changing? We'd love to hear your feedback so we can improve. Feel free to suggest improvements in https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues

I agree with commenter. My particular problems (not all about UI). - Submenu is so gray its hardly visible (the one showing files, commits etc) - Pipeline interface is horrible. If job is manual it cant be executed from the job page or repeated with latest code without resurfing trough menu. - Project builds can not be deleted in bulk without using API - Public projest are basically hidden, I have to explain to every…

Thank you for the specifics, it is helpful to know what UI elements we can improve on.

The submenu is going away. We have done extensive testing on our navigation and are making significant improvements. Take a look at the issue, I would love to know your thoughts:

https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/32794

We have a few issues to address improving the pipelines interface, take a look or create issues with your suggestions on how we can make the UI better for you.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by ishitatsuyuki »

siliconc0w wrote: post #8

Asking users to run mongo, es, neo4j, and redis is a tall order. Mattermost just needs (AFAIK) a relational database. Also, less relevant but the Gitlab UI has far too much wasted whitespace. Like 85% of the page is navigation. I like open source competitors to incumbents but maybe just copy Github here - no one is gonna say anything.

Matrix is also quite good on this. Homeserver and PSQL (and maybe nginx), done.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by hueving »

romanovcode wrote: post #45
Blahah wrote: post #44

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Interesting (and rude). I think it's much better than any other group chat app. Especially for groups organised around code projects.

I was talking about GitLab, not Gitter. Yes it's rude, but I want to love GitLab - it's amazing. However I just can't bring myself over with this UI. It's just too bad and too unintuitive. Also slow.

This type of feedback is almost completely useless for a project. "the worst", "too bad", and "unintuitive" are not actionable so if you really want to help a project then describe concrete issues.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by kobeya »

kronos29296 wrote: post #70
kobeya wrote: post #38

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You say that as if it's a good thing...

IRC is not going anywhere but projects like neovim use gitter primarily while IRC is linked using a bot. They view the IRC chat in gitter. Dunno if Gitter is better than IRC as I have only used for help and support (for me) but Gitter was far easier to use than IRC. Just Login and start chatting. I don't think IRC is going anywhere either... We just have alternatives to freenode now in Gitter

Does Gitter have federated servers using a standard protocol and a vast array of programmable extensions? None of these hosted solutions are even in the same league as IRC, and we are worse off for it.

Re: Gitter is open source

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Post by akerro »

oblio wrote: post #80
akerro wrote: post #41

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> Asking users to run mongo, es, neo4j, and redis is a tall order. Not really. Why? Reddit is opensource but it'd damn hard to setup correctly and start your own instance.

Just because Reddit does it rather badly does not mean that other OSS projects shouldn't try to do better.

>Just because Reddit does it rather badly

What about other OSS project? It's also not easy to make Linux from scratch. Being OSS doesn't mean it will be single click to run your instance.

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