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New Skype Update Is Horrible

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Re: New Skype Update Is Horrible

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I had a similar experience: Microsoft deleted all my childhood email because I didn't log into hotmail frequently enough. This included the emails I sent to my first love. And the ones she sent me. All gone. Because Microsoft wanted to save some tiny amount of space. I love Microsoft and an writing this on a Surface device now but Christ, that was awful and would make me think twice about using Microsoft online servi…

It's a free service, it's part of the deal. If you want permanent storage, you pay.

There are other free services without president of doing stuff like that though. It's obviously always a risk with any service, free or not... but I have never lost an email using Gmail for the past 12-13 years, even on accounts I forgot about for 5+ years.

Re: New Skype Update Is Horrible

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Haven't seen anyone else mention it. Our company uses Cisco software for IM, calls, video conferencing and VOIP handsets. Been using it for about 5 years, haven't had any issues. It integrates with our outdated Office suite. With the jabber software I can chat with my colleagues, share my screen, video chat, route my phone, check voicemail.

Re: New Skype Update Is Horrible

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Question: does Skype for Business (nee Lync) mirror these same UX changes as Skype makes them, or does it do its own thing? Because I'm guessing this is just Microsoft further differentiating their product categories: today's Skype is for consumers (ala Facebook Messenger), so it gets "cute" features at the expense of the ability to use it for productivity; while Skype for Business continues to be about efficient col…

The Business one still looks like MSN Messenger of old, give or take. Unfortunately it has a host of it's own small, annoying bugs. The first chat message of the day routinely appears above yesterday's messages so you don't see it. Emailed "missed conversations" have timestamps that are 8 hours out so you wonder why someone was talking to you in the middle of the night and it turns out it was 10 minutes ago. All of t…

My workplace recently(~a year ago) switched to Skype for Business. We were using Microsoft communicator before this. Skype came in with Office 365 update.

I like that it integrates well with Outlook. You can do something like create a meeting invite from within the calendar in Outlook. Then when meeting reminder pops up it will automatically contain a link the invitee can click on to join meeting remotely via Skype things like that make teleconferencing etc dead easy.

There are some other pretty nice features like being able to see someones Skype status from outlook when you read email. i.e so you know if they are at their desk or working remotely etc.

It is also simple to do things like sharing a screen, we use this feature a lot for remote meetings. There are a heap of non technical people in my org and screen sharing was always a huge pain point in the past.

I haven't noticed the issue with timestamps but no one in my org really uses the messaging/chat features everything here has traditionally been email based so I've never seen many missed conversation messages. The only thing conversations are used for are quick fire stuff like "Are you coming for lunch?" and even then 90% of people still use email or phone for this.

One horrible bug I have noticed is Skype will email me when I have a new voice mail and it uses some horrible speech to text conversion to describe what is in the message which results in what is essentially nonsense.

Bad voice mail auto translation have become a kind of office meme around here with people sharing the funniest ones etc. I do not think their speech to text understands Australian accents at all...

Re: New Skype Update Is Horrible

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I'm likely channeling Jason Scott here, but this rhetoric is not helping. Yes of course people should back things up, but responding to "I just lost things of sentimental value to me" with "well you should've backed things up" doesn't come off as helpful advice. Really, the problem is that online services (startups that are shutting down are the worst offenders[1]) are allowed to destroy user data with reckless aband…

I hate to be insensitive to people, but, it is important to point these things out when the message will hit hardest. I remember, a long long time ago, someone I knew had just ripped his massive compact disc collection to his Windows computer, and, by default, they were in encrypted WMA format. He was very receptive to me pointing out how bad DRM was, because now he couldn't copy them to his other computers, and how…

That's a very different scenario.

Re: New Skype Update Is Horrible

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It's a free service, it's part of the deal. If you want permanent storage, you pay.

There are other free services without president of doing stuff like that though. It's obviously always a risk with any service, free or not... but I have never lost an email using Gmail for the past 12-13 years, even on accounts I forgot about for 5+ years.

Just because somebody gives money to the poor in the street doesn't make those who don't bad people.

Plus, on the other hand, Gmail locked me out of several of my accounts for dubious security reasons. I lost my mails because of a suspicion behavior, which was me traveling or not giving them away my phone number. Lucky me I always have an IMAP client setup.

Unless you pay, you are the product. Don't blame them.

P.S: not saying this as a MS fanboy, as any peak on my comment history would let you see how much I blame this company for a lot of things. But this is business as usual. Plus, if emails are that important, you should have a backup.

Re: New Skype Update Is Horrible

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Microsoft have driven Skype into the ground. How they can release something this childish and terrible, yet also have the "Skype for Business" brand I don't understand. If this had been released as "Skype for Fun" or "Skype for Kids" I'd almost understand. But trying to force users into this hideous mess is very frustrating, Skype was a dependable, if bloated app. Now I fear getting messages via it, it's so horrible.…

Both my employer (120,000 employees) and our main contractor (20,000 employees) use Skype for Business. By use, I mean we've purchased it and deployed it to every employee in the world. It's never worked, ever, for anything. Not for audio, not for screen sharing, not for chat. I now decline all meeting requests that rely on Skype for Business for some essential part of the meeting.

The connection issues seem to be company related. I’ve used it in companies where it always worked, and others where it would error out with a 50/50 chance with no discernable cause.

But Skype for Business (ahem, Lync) also has some fun, enterprisey restrictions that make no sense at all:

- You can’t send messages longer than a few sentences (stacktrace, code snippet are “too long”). - You can’t send messages to offline contacts and have them receive it when they go back online. The message just disappears.

Re: New Skype Update Is Horrible

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I have witnessed Skype to go from almost perfect video & chat communicator to absolute crap over almost 10 years, and I feel very sad that it has come to rip off Snapchat. There is no alternative like the old Skype now in the desktop.

It really is astonishing. I remember using Skype around 2004/05 on a horribly crappy Dell laptop and it (Skype) worked flawlessly. It sort of boggles the mind how far in to the ground it has been driven.

I think Skype was the first app that would allow to talk for free across the globe even on poor (modem) connections.

Re: New Skype Update Is Horrible

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What could I switch to (on both Mac and PC) that would give me better video chat functionality? Edit: Just to clarify, here's what I'm looking for: 1. Free plan; available everywhere in the world (I have family outside the US). 2. Both Mac and PC clients that are actually good. 3. Video chat quality (including noise filtering and such) that matches or exceeds what Skype can do. 4. IM-like client that supports text, v…

For the open source decentralised option: the Riot.im Matrix client (disclaimer, i work on it)

I couldn't live without it. Plus there is an IRC bridge which is ideal to keep up with and participate in open source projects in Freenode.
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