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Re: Finance sites erroneously show Amazon, Apple, other stocks crashing

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This story isn't emphasizing an important point: the stock price of many tech companies - amazon, google, Microsoft - were pegged to exactly $123.46 for multiple hours. This is likely 123.456 rounded to 2 decimals. To me this smells like a software testing bug or hack, rather than "stocks crashing"

I saw it pegged at 123.47

Re: Finance sites erroneously show Amazon, Apple, other stocks crashing

#42

One nice thing about SEC-regulated markets - unlike the various cryptocurrency markets - is that it's possible for trades to be rolled back if they are "clearly erroneous". That isn't perfect - if the data is only a little off, it might not be possible to get a trade rolled back - but it tends to limit how much havoc is called. https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2009/2009-215.htm (My understanding is that trades can also…

Does that SEC possibility apply to Google Finance stock data? It's not like they're a proper broker or official provider if data (i.e. most of the affected financial sites have ample "price inaccuacy" disclosures).

Re: Finance sites erroneously show Amazon, Apple, other stocks crashing

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post #41
post #16

This story isn't emphasizing an important point: the stock price of many tech companies - amazon, google, Microsoft - were pegged to exactly $123.46 for multiple hours. This is likely 123.456 rounded to 2 decimals. To me this smells like a software testing bug or hack, rather than "stocks crashing"

I saw it pegged at 123.47

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Re: Finance sites erroneously show Amazon, Apple, other stocks crashing

#44
post #3

And we trust that software can drive our cars for us?

Yes. If this is indicative of the failure rate of computers in general, then cars will be PHENOMENALLY safe. Humans are doing a garbage job, killing people left and right. So what's your solution that isn't human or computer?

I'd also hazard a guess that having humans update tens of thousands of stock prices every few seconds would result in more than one mistake in a decade.

Re: Finance sites erroneously show Amazon, Apple, other stocks crashing

#46
post #5

Sometimes I wonder if it would make sense to place long-term buy orders at a ridiculously low bids. Just in case.

Isn't that sort of what happened in the "flash crash"? Or was it purely market-makers and algorithms working their way down to 0? Big regulated markets now have circuit breakers to prevent this, unfortunately.

Re: Finance sites erroneously show Amazon, Apple, other stocks crashing

#47

One nice thing about SEC-regulated markets - unlike the various cryptocurrency markets - is that it's possible for trades to be rolled back if they are "clearly erroneous". That isn't perfect - if the data is only a little off, it might not be possible to get a trade rolled back - but it tends to limit how much havoc is called. https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2009/2009-215.htm (My understanding is that trades can also…

The flip side of this is that no providers of pricing data are expected to stand behind their prices. It's basically arbitrary and at the whim of some people who very easily may not care about your situation.

Re: Finance sites erroneously show Amazon, Apple, other stocks crashing

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post #5

Sometimes I wonder if it would make sense to place long-term buy orders at a ridiculously low bids. Just in case.

Isn't that sort of what happened in the "flash crash"? Or was it purely market-makers and algorithms working their way down to 0? Big regulated markets now have circuit breakers to prevent this, unfortunately.

But the idea is that you put a buy option at the low price.

Ie, you say "I would like to buy 1 million microsoft stock, at the price of 1 cent".

The flash crash was cause by stop-loss orders. IE, if the price gets low, then sell. Instead of price gets low, then buy.

Re: Finance sites erroneously show Amazon, Apple, other stocks crashing

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post #42

One nice thing about SEC-regulated markets - unlike the various cryptocurrency markets - is that it's possible for trades to be rolled back if they are "clearly erroneous". That isn't perfect - if the data is only a little off, it might not be possible to get a trade rolled back - but it tends to limit how much havoc is called. https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2009/2009-215.htm (My understanding is that trades can also…

Does that SEC possibility apply to Google Finance stock data? It's not like they're a proper broker or official provider if data (i.e. most of the affected financial sites have ample "price inaccuacy" disclosures).

I don't think the OP was trying to say it applies here, just that IF there had been some kind of hack or security problem, then the SEC has some tools for dealing with it.

In this case, if it was only the data going to out to third party stock tickers, then it probably doesn't apply. Services like Google and Yahoo finance make it really clear on their sites that the data isn't necessarily accurate, can be delayed, and isn't for trading purposes, so nobody should have been making trading decisions based solely on this data anyway.

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