Are language workbenches dead?

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Post by mpweiher » Wed, Jun 28, 2017, 7:52 PM UTC

Are language workbenches dead?
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Re: Are language workbenches dead?

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Post by Someone » Wed, Jun 28, 2017, 8:06 PM UTC

"Martin Fowler coined the term somewhere in 2005"

I expected a text about, for example, APSE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APSE: "Ada Programming Support Environment was a specification for a programming environment to support software development in the Ada programming language.") from 1980 (more info at http://www.adahome.com/History/Stoneman/stoneint.htm)

Re: Are language workbenches dead?

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Post by flavio81 » Wed, Jun 28, 2017, 8:25 PM UTC

The Racket ecosystem allows developers to create DSLs as they like. Does it qualify as a "language workbench"?

Re: Are language workbenches dead?

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Post by marssaxman » Wed, Jun 28, 2017, 8:41 PM UTC

This reads like it came from an alternate universe; I've never heard about any of this stuff before, and I can't imagine how any of the concepts described by these unfamiliar terms relate to anything I know about software development. Always fun to discover that the world is more complicated than it first appeared.

Re: Are language workbenches dead?

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Post by meinte37 » Mon, Jul 03, 2017, 10:20 AM UTC

flavio81 wrote: post #3

The Racket ecosystem allows developers to create DSLs as they like. Does it qualify as a "language workbench"?

Since Racket participated in the Language Workbench Challenge 2016, the answer is a resounding YES :)

Re: Are language workbenches dead?

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Post by meinte37 » Mon, Jul 03, 2017, 10:23 AM UTC

Someone wrote: post #2

"Martin Fowler coined the term somewhere in 2005" I expected a text about, for example, APSE ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APSE : "Ada Programming Support Environment was a specification for a programming environment to support software development in the Ada programming language." ) from 1980 (more info at http://www.adahome.com/History/Stoneman/stoneint.htm )

I have some (paywall) trouble accessing the article you reference, so I cannot really comment, but to me that seems to be describing an IDE, not necessarily a LWB that produces an IDE for a (set of) DSL(s).

Re: Are language workbenches dead?

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Post by meinte37 » Mon, Jul 03, 2017, 10:24 AM UTC

marssaxman wrote: post #4

This reads like it came from an alternate universe; I've never heard about any of this stuff before, and I can't imagine how any of the concepts described by these unfamiliar terms relate to anything I know about software development. Always fun to discover that the world is more complicated than it first appeared.

Happy to oblige, even if LWBs are meant to make things less complicated ;)