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Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by RandomBookmarks »

zmb_ wrote: post #175
corford wrote: post #46

It looks great on paper but the devil will be in the detail and how well they execute on the admin/bureaucracy side. If my experience a few years ago with the auto entrepreneur scheme and URSAFF are anything to go by, you'll need a lot of patience, the ability to speak half decent French and a sense of humour if you want to avoid ripping all your hair out :) I love France (have even married one of their citizens!) bu…

> the ability to speak half decent French After having lived and worked in multiple EU countries, I'm convinced that language is the single biggest barrier to true freedom of movement of workers in the EU. In Germany, for example, you cannot assume any daily task can be accomplished without the German language. You're then faced with either constantly dealing with communication problems with everything in your life,…

Progress in this area is very slow, but there is progress.

Example: Some court proceedings in Germany can now be done in English:

http://www.fgvw.de/en/news/archive-2015/the-introduction-of-...

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by zdkl »

cm2187 wrote: post #169
GuiA wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He has. That being said, he has nominated some semi competent people for tech related things (eg Mounor Mahjoubi as ministre du numérique) so hopefully that was all campaign talk and won't actually get implemented. Fingers crossed.

The first decision he took as a president is to renew the Etat d'Urgence (which suspends many civil liberties) while having campaigned against the "Etat d'Urgence permanent", which probably doesn't require a translation. So there is indeed hope that he won't follow his campaign line to the letter.

While I agree in spirit with your point, I cannot help but imagine the shitfest of goal realignment that must follow the first your-eyes-only presidential briefing from the intel agencies.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by philsnow »

zaatar wrote: post #164
computereye wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm French and I'm curious as to how you moved and got a job in SD ? Thanks

SD is "South Dakota" as abbreviated in US-English. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota

There are more people in San Diego (~1.2M) than all of South Dakota (~800k). Even absent the context of replying to a comment about having moved to San Diego, I think it would be reasonable to assume that "SD" stands for San Diego instead of South Dakota.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by colde »

zmb_ wrote: post #175
corford wrote: post #46

It looks great on paper but the devil will be in the detail and how well they execute on the admin/bureaucracy side. If my experience a few years ago with the auto entrepreneur scheme and URSAFF are anything to go by, you'll need a lot of patience, the ability to speak half decent French and a sense of humour if you want to avoid ripping all your hair out :) I love France (have even married one of their citizens!) bu…

> the ability to speak half decent French After having lived and worked in multiple EU countries, I'm convinced that language is the single biggest barrier to true freedom of movement of workers in the EU. In Germany, for example, you cannot assume any daily task can be accomplished without the German language. You're then faced with either constantly dealing with communication problems with everything in your life,…

Scandinavia is already part where there. Almost everyone in Denmark, Sweden and Norway speaks English at least decently well. I don't know about Sweden and Norway, but at least in Denmark there is a lot of things that you can get in English as well. But it would probably still be somewhat tricky.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by gagabity »

tajen wrote: post #173
corford wrote: post #46

It looks great on paper but the devil will be in the detail and how well they execute on the admin/bureaucracy side. If my experience a few years ago with the auto entrepreneur scheme and URSAFF are anything to go by, you'll need a lot of patience, the ability to speak half decent French and a sense of humour if you want to avoid ripping all your hair out :) I love France (have even married one of their citizens!) bu…

At least 20% of French people express capitalism-hostile opinions (and it goes well beyond Mélenchon voters). You face hostility as soon as you make money, with consequences ranging from being denied places in the kindergarten to the "petit Gregory" affair where the 5 years old son of a newly promoted team leader was drowned. I'm trying to show off as much as I can that I'm sponsoring poverty, donating a lot, making…

What happens in September? I'm going on vacation over there!

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by NicoJuicy »

corford wrote: post #46

It looks great on paper but the devil will be in the detail and how well they execute on the admin/bureaucracy side. If my experience a few years ago with the auto entrepreneur scheme and URSAFF are anything to go by, you'll need a lot of patience, the ability to speak half decent French and a sense of humour if you want to avoid ripping all your hair out :) I love France (have even married one of their citizens!) bu…

I'm not exactly sure, but i think of the EU countries. Flanders in Belgium would be a better place to start then France.

All developers/people speak: French, English and Dutch.

The only thing is, the taxes are very high. But on the other hand, the health care is awesome and cheap. Flemish people are also known to be hard workers

Anekdote: I'm Flemish, but this is what polls/research of EU-countries also conclude.

The things you hear in the news, is mostly when the Southern part of Belgium is involved ( strikes, political crisis, Brussels-Molenbeek). Due to differences between North and South Belgium ( south = very socialist and even communism since recently, where north is more liberal)

I actually believe the northern part of Belgium has more in common with the Netherlands, than the southern part..

PS. I'll probably be downvoted, but please add your opinion. I know it's very controversial. That doesn't mean i'm wrong. If you think i'm wrong, i'm open for alternative opinions as always.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by raverbashing »

zdkl wrote: post #202
cm2187 wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first decision he took as a president is to renew the Etat d'Urgence (which suspends many civil liberties) while having campaigned against the "Etat d'Urgence permanent", which probably doesn't require a translation. So there is indeed hope that he won't follow his campaign line to the letter.

While I agree in spirit with your point, I cannot help but imagine the shitfest of goal realignment that must follow the first your-eyes-only presidential briefing from the intel agencies.

Correct. It would be irresponsible to remove it now.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by keganunderwood »

rorykoehler wrote: post #197
peteretep wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I asked for a source on this it was him agreeing with a tangential talking point of May's. Can you source this more comprehensively?

You should google it for more infos. Here is a quote from the man himself: "If I am elected, France will launch a major initiative beginning this summer targeting the major Internet providers, so that they agree to the legal seizure of data from their encrypted services as part of the fight against terrorism"

Do these politicians know something we don't? Why do they have this seemingly counterproductive viewpoint?

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by raverbashing »

cmahler7 wrote: post #93
anonyfox wrote: post #15

At this point it seems that many Europe nations are more "free" than the US. Now with same-sex marriage getting legal in germany the probably last big issue is resolved. You will not get extreme high salaries like in the US, but there is stuff like free higher education and getting serious medical care won't be expensive at all. Also remember that the EU has a higher population than the US with very diverse countries…

Germany is currently raiding people's homes for posting anything they deem "hate speech" online. Facebook can be fined 50 million now for not removing what the German government deems hate speech. No WrongThink allowed in Germany. That isn't "freedom" in my mind and I think any member of HN should be horrified at the precedent being set for the future. What happens when someone who comes into power determines "hate s…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by zdkl »

4c2383f5c88e911 wrote: post #193
Majestic121 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really depends on the bank, I had to change accounts as well when I was with Credit Agricole, but all is fine and dandy since I am with Boursorama

Well, Crédit Agricole is kind of a special case, at it was initially for farmers and the like (which do not usually move), and has a heavy reliance on local branches. Although I remember my parents having an account there and not having that issue after moving on the other side of the country.

Yeah a recurring theme in this thread seems to be non french people getting caught in our public service vs private(ised) operator spectrum. As the saying goes "it's not a bug, it's a feature"!

Word of advice from an equally confused native: smile and ask questions. That ought to get you far enough unless you're in Paris (my condolences if you have to deal with the ile de france préfectures or mairies).

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