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Re: Ask HN: Why does HN censor content?

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Post by tomhoward »

pliny wrote: post #9
pcarolan wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, a) doesn't seem like it should matter, that's the way the web is going. b) i saw this article as more scientific than political. This is the closest thing you get to a controlled experiment in economics research. c) Fair. I didn't catch that this had been posted. I did a simple search with the 'past' link and didn't find anything.It seems like a flagging should require a rationale from the flagger.

from the FAQ[1]: >Are paywalls ok? >It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. The implication is that paywalls without workarounds (like WSJ) aren't OK. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

I can always read WSJ articles by searching for the title in Facebook search then clicking through from the official WSJ posting.

That workaround is often mentioned in the HN discussion threads, so it's fairly well known.

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN censor content?

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Post by krono »

pcarolan wrote: post #4

So this doesn't come off as pithy, I'd like to explain that the reason I submitted this article to HN is that 1) a lot of startups hire minimum wage workers and will be affected by these policies and 2) I wanted to get the HN crowd's $.02 on the debate. It is clearly not clear cut as to the general or specific effects implementing a minimum wage would have, but I was hoping the debate would bring out the nuance. This…

I always flag these types of posts because I'm so done with US specific political posts

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN censor content?

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Post by RickJWag »

IMHO, Hacker News does not do enough censoring.

I'd like HN to be about programming issues. I'd love that. Instead, too often it's about news issues with some political angle, seldom to do with programming.

Enough of that and I'll pull it from my RSS reader. I can find my own political content easily enough, I don't need it everywhere.

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN censor content?

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Post by majewsky »

tomhoward wrote: post #21
pliny wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

from the FAQ[1]: >Are paywalls ok? >It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. The implication is that paywalls without workarounds (like WSJ) aren't OK. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

I can always read WSJ articles by searching for the title in Facebook search then clicking through from the official WSJ posting. That workaround is often mentioned in the HN discussion threads, so it's fairly well known.

If this method accessible for people who don't want to use Facebook? If not, then I would not consider it a general circumvention measure.

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN censor content?

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Post by tomhoward »

majewsky wrote: post #25
tomhoward wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can always read WSJ articles by searching for the title in Facebook search then clicking through from the official WSJ posting. That workaround is often mentioned in the HN discussion threads, so it's fairly well known.

If this method accessible for people who don't want to use Facebook? If not, then I would not consider it a general circumvention measure.

Of course you're fully entitled to not use Facebook, but that needn't deprive everyone else of being made aware of the content and being able to access and discuss it, either by using the Facebook workaround or paying for a subscription.

Facebook has over 2Bn users. Many of them are on HN. The debate about whether or not that's a good thing is orthogonal to the fact that Facebook search is a viable workaround that allows the anyone who chooses to use it, the option of reading WSJ articles.

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN censor content?

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Post by chatnati »

anonymousiam wrote: post #2

I noticed that article disappear just as I tried to promote it. HN moderators have previously expressed support for universal income so it's probably a case of reality interfering with their world view. Thus they deny reality to maintain their world view.

If you actually consider the financial implications of this, where is the money coming from? There was a write-up a while ago, an economist dug into the possibility, and did some simple income projections vs amount taken in tax each year.

I don't have the URL available but the summary was - you'd pay people for 3 months out of the year - and the country would be bankrupt.

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN censor content?

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Post by greenyoda »

majewsky wrote: post #25
tomhoward wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can always read WSJ articles by searching for the title in Facebook search then clicking through from the official WSJ posting. That workaround is often mentioned in the HN discussion threads, so it's fairly well known.

If this method accessible for people who don't want to use Facebook? If not, then I would not consider it a general circumvention measure.

If you don't want to use Facebook, pasting a WSJ link into outline.com will also yield the full article:

https://outline.com

Re: Ask HN: Why does HN censor content?

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Post by anonymousiam »

anonymousiam wrote: post #2

I noticed that article disappear just as I tried to promote it. HN moderators have previously expressed support for universal income so it's probably a case of reality interfering with their world view. Thus they deny reality to maintain their world view.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/07/03/busted-em...
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