Afghanistan's All-Girl Robotics Team Can't Get Visas to the US
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#3Why in the world should we care, especially when the overwhelming majority of their countrymen don't believe they should be engaged in the activity at all?
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#4This is certainly disappointing to see, but it's not new and it's not surprising. It is incredibly difficult to get a travel visa from Afghanistan to the US, last year's refusal rate was 74%.
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#6Why in the world should we care, especially when the overwhelming majority of their countrymen don't believe they should be engaged in the activity at all?
Are you serious? US has been ther for over a decade now. One of the US goals is to promote democracy and education of women to detract from taliban ways which indeed help the US perogative, rightfully so IMHO. Even if you agree with the 'travel ban', it seems completely counter productive, careless, disrespectful, and destructive for the state department (or other powers that be) to not handle such scenarios with care and elegance. But I guess that's bureaucracy for you. Exactly one of the reasons why some were opposed to the ban to being with.
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#7Why in the world should we care, especially when the overwhelming majority of their countrymen don't believe they should be engaged in the activity at all?
Are you serious? US has been ther for over a decade now. One of the US goals is to promote democracy and education of women to detract from taliban ways which indeed help the US perogative, rightfully so IMHO. Even if you agree with the 'travel ban', it seems completely counter productive, careless, disrespectful, and destructive for the state department (or other powers that be) to not handle such scenarios with car…
Right, the US project for 15 years now has been explicitly to destroy their traditional society via, amongst other things, emancipating their women. My question is why I or other Americans should care about that goal.
It seems like a travel ban is a really effective way to make sure that we don't in fact need to care how they run their society.
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#8Why in the world should we care, especially when the overwhelming majority of their countrymen don't believe they should be engaged in the activity at all?
What an ugly thought. I don't know where to begin addressing you.
First, why must we help the oppressed when their local oppressors aren't concerned? Is this what you're asking? You can't possibly be serious.
Second, just because a majority of Afghani men believe something doesn't mean they all do. Those girls presumably had some support in pursuing robotics. It's more than likely the men in their family are supportive.
If there's one thing I would expect everyone to agree on, it's that helping those girls is a noble goal. They are competing on an international level despite living in an environment that stifles their creativity and freedom.
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#9Why in the world should we care, especially when the overwhelming majority of their countrymen don't believe they should be engaged in the activity at all?
Because care about something in which other are not caring makes the difference?
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Are you serious? US has been ther for over a decade now. One of the US goals is to promote democracy and education of women to detract from taliban ways which indeed help the US perogative, rightfully so IMHO. Even if you agree with the 'travel ban', it seems completely counter productive, careless, disrespectful, and destructive for the state department (or other powers that be) to not handle such scenarios with car…
Right, the US project for 15 years now has been explicitly to destroy their traditional society via, amongst other things, emancipating their women. My question is why I or other Americans should care about that goal. It seems like a travel ban is a really effective way to make sure that we don't in fact need to care how they run their society.
Let's also blame suffragettes for destroying our own traditional society.