This is sttarting to read as a Thucydides Trap. Established power threatened by an upstart rival.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/09/un...
Walmart threatens to cut ties with truckers that also haul for Amazon
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#72I guess the cold war started. I hope it isn't true. Amazon is not walmarts enemy: they should focus on low prices and growth using new technology. Their ceo said they reached employment peak [1] Truckers and delivery people dont hate each other or have any competitive spirit among each other. Pay me to make a delivery. End of story. The ups and FedEx guy(s) and i all bitch about the same thing: why cant these healthy…
Walmart's fight is far more for vendors than shoppers.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can see the argument* to say "we can't invest the work to support chromecast". Whereas it's harder to say "we won't talk to these other truckers who work with our competitor". *A argument, not one that would hold in court. IANAL. EDIT: It seems I misunderstood Amazon's lack of Chromecast support. I hadn't thought of trying to buy Chromecast through Amazon before. I own three of them and bought all through the Googl…
I don't think this is about supporting chromecast for Amazon Video, it's about actually selling the google chromecast itself on amazon.com. I don't think there is any argument that passes the sniff test for them not to be able to sell a physical device like chromecast from amazon.com. The level of incremental work is basically zero to add an item into the store.
Even better, when you search for chromecast on amazon.com, the first listing is for Amazon's competing product, the 'Fire Stick'
Re: Walmart threatens to cut ties with truckers that also haul for Amazon
#74I guess the cold war started. I hope it isn't true. Amazon is not walmarts enemy: they should focus on low prices and growth using new technology. Their ceo said they reached employment peak [1] Truckers and delivery people dont hate each other or have any competitive spirit among each other. Pay me to make a delivery. End of story. The ups and FedEx guy(s) and i all bitch about the same thing: why cant these healthy…
Amazon is definitely Walmart's enemy, at least directly. Indirectly, it is last mile shipping that is Walmart's enemy. Last mile shipping is far more efficient, and has to win in the long run. Imagine if the dominant paradigm for garbage collection was that everyone had to take their own garbage to the dump.
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#75When you are desperate, you are acting irrationally and, definitely, absolutely, not thinking long-term, but counting on potential short-gains to survive, and looks like that's Whalmart is doing. They are doomed, of course, just a matter of how long it will take until they become irrelevant. And it's not like they couldn't study history or didn't have time or money to invest in whatever would have been required to mo…
That's a bit extreme.
Walmart is the largest company in the world by revenue (by far), at over 4.5X what Amazon pulls in. They have almost 5000 locations in the US and an extra 4000 worldwide.
They've spent the last few decades engaged in ruthless competition with small, local business, and for many, now represent the only game in town. They also have tons of exclusive arrangements with suppliers, logistics, and shipping.
I'm not a huge fan of Walmart, but they definitely are positioned to weather quite a few storms. There's no doubt that they've been slow to move to the online space, but when they really focus on it, I think we'll see a very interesting fight with them and Amazon.
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i order almost everything off amazon. i admit that i feel strange about this for many reasons, but laziness doesn't really come into play. time is the most valuable thing i have and stress is a major health issue. by ordering off of amazon i completely sidestep having to deal with traffic, lines, driving, miserable employees, poor service, not finding what i want, terrible products, etc. that's a lot of stress and ti…
I am a hypocrite. I order too My point was that delivery people dont give each other the finger - we could care less. We talk shop amd know each other by name. I really doubt a trucker hauling today to a Amazon site and tomorrow to a walmart site cares. After years of delivering stuff people can buy we get jaded- and that is what we all complain about. (to ourselves) One example. Woman gets Fresh. Weekly. As carrier…
I'm sure it would be preferable for the son to pick up the groceries, and the 59-year old carrier to be unemployed.
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#77fuck Walmart. You don't hear anything about Amazon workers being on public assistance because they are payed enough and get enough hours to survive on their own. Around the holidays Walmart takes food and toy donations for their workers inside their break rooms. It's a bad company and I hope it gets killed off.
Amazon is notorious for their awful treatment of workers. Just recently a local NPR station had a re-run of a story where (1) even when the AC broke inside the warehouse, Amazon wouldn't give them a break or let them open the door or windows to cool things off. A person eventually passed out. (2) They tempt and fake promise temp workers with good future outlook like better pay and benefits after they work for X amoun…
I'm not really trying to defend Amazon Fulfillment nor do I doubt the veracity of the NPR article. However, I want to throw some anecdata into the conversation.
My ex-wife has worked for Amazon Fulfillment for almost 5 years (in Texas - not exactly known as a "worker friendly" place when it comes to having laws protecting the working class from abuse) in multiple facilities (both replenishment and fulfillment) and hasn't witnessed workers being systematically mistreated, obvious safety issues going unreported and unaddressed, etc. She makes almost twice minimum wage with medical benefits, stock, 401k matching, 1.5x + 8 hours holiday pay compensation during crunch time, etc. All of that paid to someone that has only a high-school equivalence certificate.
She used to work at Walmart and would unequivocally tell you that Amazon Fulfillment has been the better of the two companies to work for.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
In what universe is Amazon not Walmart's enemy?
I've always saw Amazon and Walmart almost as large cats with overlapping ranges. Like they've seen signs the other is around, but haven't actually had any run-ins or direct confrontations.
Cats are extremely territorial. If there is overlap, it is perceived as trespass and confrontation is inevitable. Which is what we are seeing.
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#79I've posted before about Walmart and I'll post here again. They routinely would pay us late and underpay invoices on delivered products. Sometimes racking up to $50-$100,000. The worst part for us is it would be an average of one year before they would pay it in full. You'd have to submit a claim and fill out endless paperwork to get paid. It was so hard on us as a company. You also had to pay them a per package fee…
I don't understand a mega-corporation delaying payment to employees. Is that part of a Fortune 500's business model?
For what little benefit do they gain by playing these low level wage tricks?
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Wouldn't matter, Amazon is already singling out all three with LaserShip and its own Logistics firm. Did I mention how terrible AMZL is at their job? I spend the better part of a day tracking down a package marked as "delivered."
The last three packages I got from Amazon were late, even though they were Prime guaranteed. Only one of those was the fault of the carrier, the other two sat in the Amazon distribution center for the two guaranteed days, only making it to the carrier long after they should have been in my mailbox. While I was able to get an extension on my Prime membership all three times, I'm starting to wonder if I should just dro…
I'm finding the "free" shipping to be less and less of a benefit now. It's frequently available from non-Prime sellers for cheaper (which generally works out to about the same cost when you figure in shipping).