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Who Is Most Likely to Switch From Windows to a Mac?

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Re: Who Is Most Likely to Switch From Windows to a Mac?

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Post by simonh »

ProblemFactory wrote: post #10
mherrmann wrote: post #5

What I find ridiculous are Apple's prices. I need 16GB RAM, 256+GB SSD for dev work. In 2014, a MacBook Pro with these specs cost me €1500. Today, it would be €2000. I lost my MacBook on a train two weeks ago [1]. Because of this surge in prices, I decided to go for a Dell XPS 13. It's supposed to be the best Linux laptop and cost me €1600 with 16/512GB. [1]: https://fman.io/blog/lost-laptop/

In 2014, USD/EUR exchange rate was around 1.35-1.40. In 2017, it has been around 1.05-1.10. So assuming Apple originally prices things in dollars and converts for foreign markets, 1500 EUR in 2014 is the same price as 1900-2000 EUR today just based on the exchange rate changes.

I'm in the UK. Don't even get me started. Thanks Brexit voters, you really stuck it to The Man this time!

Re: Who Is Most Likely to Switch From Windows to a Mac?

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

boyce wrote: post #7

Here in Britain there's a Microsoft advert at the moment (maybe elsewhere too, no idea) that says at the end of it "You don't expect to be able to draw on a screen" That's literally the only feature they mention. Touchscreen compatibility. It makes them look like they're from the stone age and completely unaware of the competition

It's true, to an extent: only the more expensive iPad Pro supports Apple's native "Pencil" tool - the non-Pro iPad can only use third-party Bluetooth styluses that have a sub-par user-experience.

But yeah - Microsoft just won't let the "Pen computing" vision die - they've been at it since their first "Windows for Pen Computing" release in 1992.

Serious question: does anyone use the handwriting note-taking abilities they added to the Edge Browser when people were begging for Extension support?

Re: Who Is Most Likely to Switch From Windows to a Mac?

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Post by kodfodrasz »

boyce wrote: post #7

Here in Britain there's a Microsoft advert at the moment (maybe elsewhere too, no idea) that says at the end of it "You don't expect to be able to draw on a screen" That's literally the only feature they mention. Touchscreen compatibility. It makes them look like they're from the stone age and completely unaware of the competition

It is not simply touch screen they are mentioning. It is "inking capabilities", stylus based drawing on the screen.

The ad is not a good one as for example it was not clear for you. On the other hand people already know basic windows features, this is their intended direction of developing the system: more natural human interface, including handwriting and voice recognition.

Re: Who Is Most Likely to Switch From Windows to a Mac?

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Post by kodfodrasz »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #14
boyce wrote: post #7

Here in Britain there's a Microsoft advert at the moment (maybe elsewhere too, no idea) that says at the end of it "You don't expect to be able to draw on a screen" That's literally the only feature they mention. Touchscreen compatibility. It makes them look like they're from the stone age and completely unaware of the competition

It's true, to an extent: only the more expensive iPad Pro supports Apple's native "Pencil" tool - the non-Pro iPad can only use third-party Bluetooth styluses that have a sub-par user-experience. But yeah - Microsoft just won't let the "Pen computing" vision die - they've been at it since their first "Windows for Pen Computing" release in 1992. Serious question: does anyone use the handwriting note-taking abilities t…

I have used the feature in the maps app. I have a simple old wacom tablet, which is not the same as "drawing on the screen", but I have a preference of this input method and note taking. If i'd have more suitable hardware, probably I'd use these features more, but my hardware are doing great, so no updates yet.

Re: Who Is Most Likely to Switch From Windows to a Mac?

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Post by kodfodrasz »

dialupmodem wrote: post #3

After being a windows jerk for 20 years I fully switched over about a year ago. My only remaining attachment to Microsoft is an old version of office I have running in CrossOver. I think what did it for me was the hardware, but the forced updates and telemetry completely sabotaged trust and closed the deal. It was a tough move, but my new found hatred for Microsoft fueled the whole journey adequately. Just what are t…

I hope you know that you have a false sense of security regarding Linux and viruses.

I have became a windows user from linux user, and I don't regret it. I can still use linux on my servers, but on desktop it didn't suite my needs.

Re: Who Is Most Likely to Switch From Windows to a Mac?

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Post by SyneRyder »

dialupmodem wrote: post #3

After being a windows jerk for 20 years I fully switched over about a year ago. My only remaining attachment to Microsoft is an old version of office I have running in CrossOver. I think what did it for me was the hardware, but the forced updates and telemetry completely sabotaged trust and closed the deal. It was a tough move, but my new found hatred for Microsoft fueled the whole journey adequately. Just what are t…

> the forced updates and telemetry completely sabotaged trust and closed the deal.

It's a factor in the opposite direction too. I'd love to switch away from Mac, and I work in my Windows 10 VM much more often lately. But I've had Windows force a major update just as I arrived at the coworking space, wasting 2 hours of productive time. The whole time I'm praying it finishes before I had to run for my train home, when I'd have to shut it down even though it says "Don't Turn Off Your Computer". I've had other issues too, like updates failing in endless loops & burning through my tethering data.

Microsoft has to fix updating, it's one area where Apple is significantly better.

Re: Who Is Most Likely to Switch From Windows to a Mac?

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Post by boyce »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #14
boyce wrote: post #7

Here in Britain there's a Microsoft advert at the moment (maybe elsewhere too, no idea) that says at the end of it "You don't expect to be able to draw on a screen" That's literally the only feature they mention. Touchscreen compatibility. It makes them look like they're from the stone age and completely unaware of the competition

It's true, to an extent: only the more expensive iPad Pro supports Apple's native "Pencil" tool - the non-Pro iPad can only use third-party Bluetooth styluses that have a sub-par user-experience. But yeah - Microsoft just won't let the "Pen computing" vision die - they've been at it since their first "Windows for Pen Computing" release in 1992. Serious question: does anyone use the handwriting note-taking abilities t…

surely anyone's reaction to "you don't expect to be able to draw on a screen" will be "I really do though"

regardless of what they mean, what they say is ridiculous

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