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Where Is Nokia Now?

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#101
They have been an absolute star of my portfolio since shortly before they sold a whole load of stuff to Microsoft. Doubled in price, fantastic dividends. Whatever they're doing, I hope they keep doing it.

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#102

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No, that's not what I did at all. The GP of my comment was looking for an alternative recommendation. Spending >$100 for a fancy pants scale as a convenient alternative is incredibly wasteful and encourages activity (daily or mulime times daily) that is counter productive.

A high quality regular scale (of similar build quality, design, and construction) to a Withings scale is $40-60 The Withings is $100. So it’s up to the consumer of the simplicity, ease of use, lack of friction in monitoring, and saving of time is worth $40-60 extra. If I save 30-45 mins of my time over the life of the scale: yes it is. Just from time alone (not taking other benefits into account yet) That’s not waste…

Not at all. I live a digital life where I automate a ridiculous amount of activity.

This is just an exercise in false progress. The average scale has an error range of 10-20 oz for a 200lb load. Automating something of little value (i.e. Daily or more frequent body measurements) doesn't make it more valuable.

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#104
It’s simple, they made some very bad decisions. They had an opportunity to get out it but they didn’t. And now that they are trying, the competition is just very tough to survive. They got fucked because of Microsoft.

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"The only step" presumes that the automatic approach Just Works™ at a price you're willing to pay (including having someone else own your data). A $20 scale in the bathroom with a 3x5 card and a pen nearby has worked out pretty well for me over the last 3 years. There's two whole steps, but they're entirely transparent and quick, the equipment involved is affordable, I haven't had to spend time on setup or troublesho…

The privacy is pretty good too. As always, that depends on your threat model. There are potential attackers (read: snooping family members) with physical access to my bathroom.

So true. Even the best security measures can be rendered useless by physical access. :)

Re: Where Is Nokia Now?

#106

This article confused me on the reality of today's 'Nokia' phones. The recently released and 'back to basics' phones are not legitimate Nokia in my estimation, they are some generic OEM phones with a Nokia label slapped on them. I am not sure why this badge engineering bugs me, to make me think they are not real Nokia. More generally, why is it that badge engineering sometimes is seen as okay and sometimes not? To ta…

The new Nokia phones are engineered and designed by a company called HMD. HMD was founded for the specific purpose of making "Nokia" phones under the license after Microsoft sold it off. HMD is based in Espoo, with their office right across the street from Nokia HQ, and the company consists mostly of ex-Nokia phone engineers and other employees.

So basically the phones are designed by the same engineers, and the office where they are designed is right next-door to Nokia. The reason it's a separate company is just that Nokia is not that interested in making phones right now.

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#107

Probably still in Finland. Source: I went to school with a Son of a Nokia employee who informed me the origin of the name wasn't anything exotic, but a specific town in Finland. Thus, I gather it's still there.

The Bloomberg article said that Nokia was founded near the city of Tampere. In fact, it was founded in a smaller town near Tampere, called... Nokia. Originally it would have been called something to "the Nokia wood pulp company" or whatever, but they kept the name Nokia when they expanded and moved.

Nokia's headquarters have been in the city of Espoo for a long time (near Helsinki). The area in Espoo where they have their office, Otaniemi, is home to many Helsinki-area tech companies, Aalto University, and many science and engineering institutions.

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#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A high quality regular scale (of similar build quality, design, and construction) to a Withings scale is $40-60 The Withings is $100. So it’s up to the consumer of the simplicity, ease of use, lack of friction in monitoring, and saving of time is worth $40-60 extra. If I save 30-45 mins of my time over the life of the scale: yes it is. Just from time alone (not taking other benefits into account yet) That’s not waste…

Not at all. I live a digital life where I automate a ridiculous amount of activity. This is just an exercise in false progress. The average scale has an error range of 10-20 oz for a 200lb load. Automating something of little value (i.e. Daily or more frequent body measurements) doesn't make it more valuable.

Only if you don’t value your time. Clearly you do not.
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