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Raspberry pi and similar are not fake if you actually want something of this form factor (not full PC size, and not a smartphone you would build into the wall...) to run some particular job in your house or elsewhere.
Yeah, but it might feel fake if you just download a bunch of libraries, install them and call it a day.
The iPhone killed my inner nerd
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#22I get it. I only started programming precisely when the first iphone came out, and I started tinkering a few years before. Even so I long for this sense of wonder that existed when everything was hard, or at least required some thought and ingenuity. I know the raspberry pie and stuff are a way to do that, but it feels so artificial and fake. (No, this comment really has no other point but to evoke diffuse nostalgic…
> I know the raspberry pie and stuff are a way to do that, but it feels so artificial and fake.
The Raspberry Pi came about as the result of obscure, unsupported, difficult to grok dev boards that polluted the landscape. With the release of the Pi, suddenly we had a dev board that had a maintained and supported Linux distro, GPIO that was thoroughly and correctly documented, and a community that actually cared about the device. Fast forward five years and it has stayed the dominant "consumer developer" device because it has opened up more and more, while still being 100% supported by its makers rather than closed and abandoned after every minor revision (looking at you, Hardkernel).
If anything, the RPi has revitalized programming as an educational path for young children, and I applaud them for that.
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#23>Apple’s iPhone has been on the market for 10 years now, and it hasn’t experienced a single instance of a mass malware attack like we’ve seen twice in the past month on Windows PCs. >Sure, there have been vulnerabilities, bugs, and near misses, but nobody has been forced to pay $300 to unlock their iPhone after a huge malware attack. I feel the article is disingenuous by comparing a phone to a PC.
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#24Also, modern cars with their proverbial weld-shut hoods have killed my inner mechanical engineer.
I added a pop-top roof, solar panels, dual batteries, a water tank,pump and filtration system, interior cabinets, a fridge, new suspension, bumpers, a winch and a whole lot more to mine!
All the details here: http://theroadchoseme.com/the-jeep
I designed and built the whole thing, which was channeling my inner engineer!
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#25Also, modern cars with their proverbial weld-shut hoods have killed my inner mechanical engineer.
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#26Also, modern cars with their proverbial weld-shut hoods have killed my inner mechanical engineer.
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#28So his point is taken: for people whose main interest in technology was effectively for personal organisation and home entertainment there is no longer much need, or use, for technical knowledge. Perhaps that will close one pathway into technology. Others will open up.
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#29This killed me- I used to run a 'App Store'-like site for Pocket PC around this time which allowed installing apps OTA- usually this required running the installer on your Desktop PC and syncing to device. I knew lots of people wanted this but didn't know how to let them know about my site. Web archive has a copy, but only the home page :(
http://web.archive.org/web/20051201023911/http://www.cabfile...
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#30I wonder if this will have an effect on how kids get into programming. Back when I was a kid we had MS-DOS, my primary motivation was to install and play games, but there was this easy built-in pathway of: Hey, you can do a lot more with this machine if you want, including making your own games. Nowadays consuming and developing are so disconnected, it seems almost impossible for the younger generations to just stumb…
The 1980s and 1990s were prime times for kids getting into programming. Early personal computers came with BASIC. Early HTML and JavaScript were simple enough for a child to get into. That seemed to fall apart in the 2000s when programming languages did not come standard with personal computers and the growing complexity of web development made it increasingly difficult to create anything exciting by the standards of the day. Those were also the times when programming books geared towards kids seemed to disappear.
Of course many of the modern efforts are much more artificial since they rely upon programming languages geared towards kids. Yet that is the price of complexity. Regardless of what the article's author argues, modern devices are much more complex under the hood. Much of that complexity bleeds into the tools that would appeal to the inner nerd. Languages geared towards kids both reduce that complexity and add to the excitement of creating more sophisticated programs. Children who learn them will have the basics to leap into "real" programming languages.
The other thing that we have witnessed over the past few years is a renewed interest in books geared towards children of most ages. For a while the best that I saw were titles geared towards teens and determined tweens. Now it is possible to find Python (and Ruby) books that mirror some of the BASIC books that were written for children in the early 1980s.
Things are getting better, even if walled gardens are leading some people to claim otherwise.