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Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

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Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

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> I guess I should start a payday loans company marketed in such a way that using it doesn't offend the class sensibilities and self-image of well-off millennials and say I'm doing something "new". https://www.lendup.com/

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Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

#122

Yes! This is genius, YC. Great investment into yet another amazing YC startup. Amazing potential! This is like AirBNB for ice-cream stands! Definitely billions! This is creating new industry!

Please don't create accounts to troll here. It will eventually get your main account banned as well.

(In case anyone is wondering, we're careful to moderate HN less when YC or YC startups are involved, but "less" doesn't mean "not at all", and in cases like this one the moderation principles are quite well-established.)

Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

#123

When I moved to San Francisco a couple of years ago, I was really surprised by how difficult it was to find a fully furnished apartment. I really did not enjoy those trips to IKEA and putting everything together. In contrast, it seems that most apartments in Chiang Mai are fully furnished. We've moved 3 times so far, and it's always just one car ride with a small collection of personal stuff. It's really nice to neve…

I grew up on Air Force bases. There, base housing is provided furnished.

On one, the base commander's wife outfitted all the housing with her style of furniture. She was sure she was doing everyone a favor. Naturally, everyone else's wife hated it.

Providing furnished apartments is likely a no-win situation, which is likely why they are hard to find.

Some AF bases had a better system where there was a warehouse with a variety of furniture, and the residents would pick what they wanted. Of course, higher ranking officers got first pick :-)

Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

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Inexpensive, mass-market furniture is going to be hard to build a business around in this regard. A lot of rightful squawking about prices compared to Overstock/Wayfair. What if you're targeting too downmarket with this? What if instead you marketed heirloom-quality furniture at the same price point, but gave the option at the end of "leases" to purchase or relinquish that furniture. You get margin on the lease, get…

Now that's how you provide constructive, gentle criticism to a vulnerable little startup.

Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

#125
post #95

Inexpensive, mass-market furniture is going to be hard to build a business around in this regard. A lot of rightful squawking about prices compared to Overstock/Wayfair. What if you're targeting too downmarket with this? What if instead you marketed heirloom-quality furniture at the same price point, but gave the option at the end of "leases" to purchase or relinquish that furniture. You get margin on the lease, get…

Good advice.

I want to add that for $18/mo you can get a knock-off of a Hans Wegner PP501 [1]. That's very expensive for what's guaranteed to be a dime-a-dozen Chinese-made replica of the type you find on Wayfair or Overstock [2]. I can't reasonably afford a Wegner (it's about $4,000-5,000 new, and vintage models are ironically even pricier), but I could see myself leasing one.

Leasing isn't just for people who move a lot. Leasing would also allow you to swap out the furniture every now and then.

[1] "Austin chair", https://rentfeather.com/collections/bedroom/products/austing...

[2] Possibly this: https://www.wayfair.com/Stilnovo-The-Kennedy-Arm-Chair-STNO1...

Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

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post #114

I just use the Ikea return policy and position myself around Ikeas. Really missing out in the Philippines. Furniture here overall sucks. "Return policy NO-NONSENSE - 365 DAYS TO CHANGE YOUR MIND mattresses purchases may be exchanged for another mattress one time within 365 days if you don’t love it. products that are returned or exchanged must be clean and undamaged. Refunds will be made in the same form of payment o…

This is pretty similar to saying, "I don't rent cars, I just steal them." You're buying things, keeping them for Even if this is allowed/legal, it isn't exactly moral.

> Even if this is allowed/legal, it isn't exactly moral.

You go ahead and don't buy/return items. Moral or not, if it's legal and nets positive for me, I'm doing it. Billions of people around the world do the same thing. Are my moral wrong? Probably. At the end of the day, there is more money and happiness in my pocket.

Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I intend to contribute towards fixing the problem of lacking social safety nets in the US. Real problems need solving.

It's easy to Intend to "contribute towards fixing" any large problem resistant to change (specific actions do you intend to take, at what specific dates in the future? how will you measure the amount of contribution to "fixing the problem of lacking social safety nets in the US"?). Here's some lower hanging fruit, and more directly measurable too: https://www.givedirectly.org Real problems need solving, indeed.

I'm running for congress in the next election cycle as a democratic socialist, using my own funds. That's intent.

If you're in the Tampa area, I hope I can count on your vote! If not, no worries. I'm prepared for the long game.

Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happy to jump in here to talk about pricing, as it seems to be a big topic of conversation (and rightfully so). - The $338 bed that you linked to is on a massive, one-time sale right now. I've refreshed the page several times and the price keeps changing. The manufacturer must be testing a bunch of things out - take a look. Let's leave that one example there for now. - The Purchase Queen you linked to does look nearl…

The specific price comparisons aside, it would make sense to offer ownership after X months. So you can position yourself as a rental + financing service. If you pay rent for, say 14 months, you own the stuff.

That combined with skipping the return fee would set up some interesting dynamics (if you’re at month 10, are you going to ride out the rental to own it or do you pay to get it out). Can’t decide if that feels user hostile or not though :-).

Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

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post #121

> I guess I should start a payday loans company marketed in such a way that using it doesn't offend the class sensibilities and self-image of well-off millennials and say I'm doing something "new". https://www.lendup.com/

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14665529 and marked it off-topic.

While I suppose it was off topic from the thread I commented in, I did believe it was relevant to the comment I commented on (in my efforts to keep my comments of a high quality).

Thanks for the mod work! It's a thankless job but appreciated.

Re: Launch HN: Feather (YC S17), painless furniture rental for people who move a lot

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14665529 and marked it off-topic.

While I suppose it was off topic from the thread I commented in, I did believe it was relevant to the comment I commented on (in my efforts to keep my comments of a high quality). Thanks for the mod work! It's a thankless job but appreciated.

It's true, and not really your fault. The slippery slope of offtopicness is continuous but opportunities for snippage are discrete.

Thanks for the nice words, doubly nice after getting penalized.

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