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Peter Thiel only spent 12 days in NZ before being granted citizenship

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Re: Peter Thiel only spent 12 days in NZ before being granted citizenship

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As a Kiwi. The way they treat Kim Dotcom, and grant this guy citizen for little reason at all, makes me super disappointed in NZ. Just so sad we treat people differently based on politics that don't benefit NZ.

> Just so sad we treat people differently based on politics that don't benefit NZ.

Surely someone there benefits from it, or it would have never happened.

Re: Peter Thiel only spent 12 days in NZ before being granted citizenship

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However controversial Thiel may be, there's no arguing the benefits his citizenship grants NZ. If millions of $$ of investment and hundreds of jobs created don't qualify him for citizenship, there's a fallacy needing fixing. FYI - the US grants green cards to foreigners who invest $1M in new American businesses, NZ probably has an unwritten law that grants citizenship to those who stimulate it's economy

It's called foreign investment. And not buyyourselfin investment.

And prostitues are called escorts because they only keep you company on your travels.

The rules are as they are. If someone stimulates your economy, they can get in. Nobody is going to ask why.

I'd be surprised (and amused) if they had refused him entry "because we think you may be doing it for yourself more than for us."

Re: Peter Thiel only spent 12 days in NZ before being granted citizenship

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It says he gave a $1 million donation to the Christchurch earthquake relief fund. That'll probably do it yeah.

It takes way less than $1 million to get citizenship in most countries: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/07/countries-selling-cit...

Including the US. You do have to spend quite a bit of time here to be granted citizenship, even if you invest.

Re: Peter Thiel only spent 12 days in NZ before being granted citizenship

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However controversial Thiel may be, there's no arguing the benefits his citizenship grants NZ. If millions of $$ of investment and hundreds of jobs created don't qualify him for citizenship, there's a fallacy needing fixing. FYI - the US grants green cards to foreigners who invest $1M in new American businesses, NZ probably has an unwritten law that grants citizenship to those who stimulate it's economy

I think this mindset is largely harmful to the indigenous population of New Zealand, who will become increasingly margenalized in their home country.

By Thiel having NZ passport? How does that work? How many indigenous people were consulted before arriving to this conclusion?

Re: Peter Thiel only spent 12 days in NZ before being granted citizenship

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However controversial Thiel may be, there's no arguing the benefits his citizenship grants NZ. If millions of $$ of investment and hundreds of jobs created don't qualify him for citizenship, there's a fallacy needing fixing. FYI - the US grants green cards to foreigners who invest $1M in new American businesses, NZ probably has an unwritten law that grants citizenship to those who stimulate it's economy

It's called foreign investment. And not buyyourselfin investment.

Call it what you want to. There are a few hundred xero employees (kiwis) supporting families, the economy, adding to the technical chops of NZ, ..., because of Theil's investment.

That can't possibly be so bad.

Re: Peter Thiel only spent 12 days in NZ before being granted citizenship

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That's so f * up! Money can buy you everything. Even a citizenship. The NZ-gov should asked themselves why a close Trump supporter and VC is looking for a safe haven outside of the US. Will this person really add value to the society? Or will he build a massive mansion with a wall around it and an airport?

Of course you can buy citizenship. Here's a price list if you are in the market: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/07/countries-selling-cit...

Latvian citizenship at 35.000€ with no residency requirements looks like a steal, considering that you would be allowed to live anywhere in the EU, if I'm not misinterpreting.

Re: Peter Thiel only spent 12 days in NZ before being granted citizenship

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However controversial Thiel may be, there's no arguing the benefits his citizenship grants NZ. If millions of $$ of investment and hundreds of jobs created don't qualify him for citizenship, there's a fallacy needing fixing. FYI - the US grants green cards to foreigners who invest $1M in new American businesses, NZ probably has an unwritten law that grants citizenship to those who stimulate it's economy

I think this mindset is largely harmful to the indigenous population of New Zealand, who will become increasingly margenalized in their home country.

There's no evidence to suggest that Thiel's presence will increase that marginalization, or if Thiel is actually interested in decreasing it in the first place.

Re: Peter Thiel only spent 12 days in NZ before being granted citizenship

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If his monetary support helps to get a figure similar to Trump elected in NZ then he'd have done way more damage than good for the country. Whatever your stance on his politics, his election has done immense damage to the image of the US in the rest of the world. Edit: Wow, my first negative score comment. Could some of the people silently downvoting please specify whether they think my comment is factually incorrect…

In NZ the conservative party makes the US democrats look like a far right party. It's hard to see a Trump emerging in a landscape like that.

Untrue - just look at their punitive drug laws for e.g.. Aus and NZ are nanny states. Maybe Thiel's libertarian influence would be good for the country.
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