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Popular People Live Longer

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Re: Popular People Live Longer

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Post by 77pt77 »

fiblye wrote: post #87
RealityNow wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suicide for any able-bodied person privileged enough to be born under good circumstances in the first world is so incredibly selfish. There are so many causes worth fighting for, like bringing a basic income, fixing our medical system, etc. If you're going to kill yourself, at least do it for a cause so that it can help the world and isn't completely in vain. Maybe go to Washington and do a hunger strike in front of…

"How dare you feel dissatisfaction with life. By my standards, things are good for you and you're wasting your life. Do something I consider good to make amends." I'm sure you wonder why depressed people say they don't want to open up about their depression. It's because people like you make a point of pushing them down further and weighing them down with guilt.

More like:

>If you are considering choosing death, why not do so being useful to me?

Absolutely revolting.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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Post by peab »

subru wrote: post #33

I have considered suicide for the past 30 years. I tried very hard to build a life in the confines of whatever limitations I've been given and/or created for myself. I determine that the nature of humanity is to seek power. This study reminds me of why this world is total bullshit. I've notified to be part of this world anymore. I'm connected into this universe more than I ever have been. There is a black hole awaiti…

Have you read any Tibetan philosophy? They have thought (and continue to think) about death a lot, and in fact they celebrate it! However this doesn't mean they encourage suicide... If you're interested, you should be able to find some books about it.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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Post by BJanecke »

subru wrote: post #94
BJanecke wrote: post #93

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I respect that, and accept that you have the right to your own life. You and your life have had great meaning to me and I will forever be thankful for that.

May I ask how my life has offered great meaning to you?

I have always held the belief that everyone is entitled to their own life and can do with it as they please. This exchange reinforces that.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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Post by petraeus »

Popular people are more affluent, affluent people have greater resources to expending on their quality of life, people with better QOLs live longer, thus popular people live longer?

Misinterpreting cause and correlation, am I doing this correctly?

Re: Popular People Live Longer

#105

Post by colordrops »

taway_1212 wrote: post #90
colordrops wrote: post #54

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Why not just leave your job, walk out of your home, leave everything behind and travel to somewhere far away where interesting people reside? There is so much left to try before suicide. It's like blowing up your car because you ran out of gas.

> travel to somewhere far away where interesting people reside? Why would people far away be more interesting than people around you?

Surely the universe is not homogenous. You will encounter different types of people living at a Shaolin monastery vs working as a stock person at the supermarket.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

#106

Post by RealityNow »

fiblye wrote: post #87
RealityNow wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suicide for any able-bodied person privileged enough to be born under good circumstances in the first world is so incredibly selfish. There are so many causes worth fighting for, like bringing a basic income, fixing our medical system, etc. If you're going to kill yourself, at least do it for a cause so that it can help the world and isn't completely in vain. Maybe go to Washington and do a hunger strike in front of…

"How dare you feel dissatisfaction with life. By my standards, things are good for you and you're wasting your life. Do something I consider good to make amends." I'm sure you wonder why depressed people say they don't want to open up about their depression. It's because people like you make a point of pushing them down further and weighing them down with guilt.

Honestly most people I've met who are depressed are just mentally weak people experiencing first world problems. Yes there is that 5-10% that truly have a reason to be, but that's a very small minority.

Depression is not outside of your control. This encouragement of that kind of thinking classifying it as a "disease" is what keeps people depressed (and makes doctors money).

Was reading a book by a now successful guy who was suicidal all throughout his teenage years. He said that feeling suicidal was one of the best things to happen to him because it gave him this risk-taking attitude to just make the bold moves to turn his life around, because if things didn't work out, he could always kill himself.

Honestly it's unfortunate that this is considered too touchy a topic to talk about. We'd have less suicides if we could openly talk about it, and maybe you're committing the sin that you're accusing me of.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

#107

Post by RealityNow »

kuroguro wrote: post #78
RealityNow wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suicide for any able-bodied person privileged enough to be born under good circumstances in the first world is so incredibly selfish. There are so many causes worth fighting for, like bringing a basic income, fixing our medical system, etc. If you're going to kill yourself, at least do it for a cause so that it can help the world and isn't completely in vain. Maybe go to Washington and do a hunger strike in front of…

This I'll never understand. You're blaming others for being selfish yet ask that they participate furthering causes you believe in. You're asking others to do your work for you! Nay I say! Free will - or the ability to be as useless as one wants - is one of the very few beautiful things in this world and a basic human right. I shall not bow to your wicked ways! I shall continue to be completely useless until the last…

It's not about furthering causes for myself, but causes for humanity.

Depression is within one's control, and this attitude of classifying it as a disease only keeps people feeling helplessly depressed and enriches the pockets of doctors and pharmaceuticals companies. My other comment in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14655648

Re: Popular People Live Longer

#108

Post by RealityNow »

77pt77 wrote: post #101
fiblye wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"How dare you feel dissatisfaction with life. By my standards, things are good for you and you're wasting your life. Do something I consider good to make amends." I'm sure you wonder why depressed people say they don't want to open up about their depression. It's because people like you make a point of pushing them down further and weighing them down with guilt.

More like: >If you are considering choosing death, why not do so being useful to me? Absolutely revolting.

You're literally twisting my words to serve your personal crusade.

"If you're going to kill yourself, at least do it for a cause so that it can help the world and isn't completely in vain"

I was clearly referring to the betterment of humanity.

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