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USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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I think this is slightly different than what the article (and by extension my comment) were discussing. For some products and items, the difference between the chinese produced items and the actual items is a world of difference (e.g., electronics batteries, power adapters), but that isn't really the business that the article was talking about the cut into - the issue was resellers who would buy up a warehouse stock…

>It's not a matter of meeting shipping times or any other value propositions, it's "do we need someone to resell a toy boat at twice the price when we can buy the same stock directly That may not apply to toy boats, but it does apply to some things. Take USB to serial adapters, for example. In that case, a middle man does add value. A good middle man ensures that you get what was advertised...for example, the chipset…

>A good middle man ensures that you get what was advertised...for example, the chipset is what the product listing says it is. They also provide better documentation, support, the ability to return the item without high shipping costs, etc, than the direct-from-china seller.

On eBay, from a customer's perspective, there's no difference between a US seller and a Chinese one. We have the same way of "punishing" them. I cannot punish a US based seller any more than a Chinese one.

>If these tradeoffs were known before hand, I get your point. Typically, though, they are deliberately not disclosed.

Frankly, the stuff I've bought on eBay from Chinese sellers is so cheap that I don't really care to return them. They fall into the price range of "I don't give a damn". In the US an item may be $30. From the Chinese, $7. It's worth the gamble.

(And it really is worth the gamble. I've not been disappointed once).

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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>To me it just seems like an unsustainable business model My experience with this isn't quite how you're describing. The Chinese vendors are sort of having their cake and eating it too. They'll often, for example, not be honest about the the shipping time, their return policies, product details, ability to answer product questions, and so forth. Even if the selling platform does something about it, another Chinese se…

>They'll often, for example, not be honest about the the shipping time, their return policies, product details, ability to answer product questions, and so forth. Not been my experience for shipping time. They usually claim such a large shipping window that it is always delivered within that window. As for lower quality service, I'm not sure I see the problem. The consumer wants to pay a lower amount, and he gets wha…

I agree that it's fine if the tradeoffs are clearly disclosed.

I interact with Chinese sellers a lot. Both as a middleman, and for personal purchases. Hundreds of purchases over years. I see a lot of deception, deliberate as well as unintentional.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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Wow, if they charged foregin deliveries as much as domestic deliveries, then maybe they could stop spam in mailboxes.

Does anyone know how to stop junkmail? Postal workers have told me they can't not deliver it - even if you pay for a PO Box.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's not a matter of meeting shipping times or any other value propositions, it's "do we need someone to resell a toy boat at twice the price when we can buy the same stock directly That may not apply to toy boats, but it does apply to some things. Take USB to serial adapters, for example. In that case, a middle man does add value. A good middle man ensures that you get what was advertised...for example, the chipset…

>A good middle man ensures that you get what was advertised...for example, the chipset is what the product listing says it is. They also provide better documentation, support, the ability to return the item without high shipping costs, etc, than the direct-from-china seller. On eBay, from a customer's perspective, there's no difference between a US seller and a Chinese one. We have the same way of "punishing" them. I…

>cannot punish a US based seller any more than a Chinese one.

You can, in that eBay has less ability to deal with Chinese sellers coming back with fake or borrowed credentials.

I do concede that eBay and their seller centric reviews deal with this better than Amazon and their product/not-seller centric review model.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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Wow, if they charged foregin deliveries as much as domestic deliveries, then maybe they could stop spam in mailboxes. Does anyone know how to stop junkmail? Postal workers have told me they can't not deliver it - even if you pay for a PO Box.

https://dmachoice.thedma.org/register.php

Is recommended by the FTC.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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Wow, if they charged foregin deliveries as much as domestic deliveries, then maybe they could stop spam in mailboxes. Does anyone know how to stop junkmail? Postal workers have told me they can't not deliver it - even if you pay for a PO Box.

There was a startup that had a subscription model but I think they got in trouble with USPS/some regulator - because of lobbying by spammers.

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It's the same in Europe. Local online merchants have no way to compete since just the national delivery costs multiple times the net price of a foreign import product. It's good for consumers, but also means the domestic e-commerce is severely underdeveloped.

Actually, delivery costs in Europe are basically nil. You can ship a package in 3 days all across the EU for under 4€ with DHL. I know, because I’ve done so several times. Stuff that’s small enough to fit in a letter even for 80ct across the entire EU in 2 days. In fact, the domestic shipping market in the EU is actually cheaper than getting international parcels.

why did I pay 18EUR to ship something from Berlin to Budapest? (1.3Kg)

so no, it's not Nil.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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Wow, if they charged foregin deliveries as much as domestic deliveries, then maybe they could stop spam in mailboxes. Does anyone know how to stop junkmail? Postal workers have told me they can't not deliver it - even if you pay for a PO Box.

>Does anyone know how to stop junkmail?

Allow USPS to raise their prices?

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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Why do some people write the dollar sign after the number? Similarly, why do some people write the percent sign before the number? I initially thought it might be a locale thing (like swapping commas and decimal points), but I've seen a lot of Americans doing it too.

Just be glad it's not "$1 dollar".

Oh to be a fiat currency!

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Now this is boring. People keep complaining about the fact that China's cheap stuff is flooding the US market. How about exporting some expensive US made stuff to China to close the gap of trading? Oh, you can't. Chinese living in China are not even allowed to buy Intel Xeon Phi cards, export license is required to safeguard your nation. Maybe make the US short term visa more accessible to Chinese tourists so they ca…

Aren't we finding Chinese nationals snooping around fields to steal seed technology? Or being the (if not second to Russia) largest force behind computer intrusion to American corporations, for the purposes of stealing intellectual property?
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