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What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

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Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

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>For example, I am certain a large number of men are more attracted to overweight women than skinny women but try to date skinny women to impress their friends and family members. That's quite a leap there Seth Stephens-Davidowitz.

I like larger women. There I said it. I've dated, married, etc. My dating with skinny women never lasted long. I was "Skinny" back in those days. I've gained quite a bit in ten years.

Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're inclined to disagree, how do you see it being consumed? As far as I know from my own experience, the vast majority of porn is consumed alone. I took that to be equivalent with the quoted section because I'm guessing most watching porn would also prefer sex with someone. It seems like your point is semantics to me unless you do truly believe that most porn is not consumed alone, in which case I'm really inte…

What? I know lots of couples, gay and straight, that watch porn together. "I'm guessing most watching porn would also prefer sex with someone." That is also a bizarre assumption to make. Sure, perhaps in theory, but a lot of married people watch porn who like to fantasize but have no desire to cheat, lots of people watch porn who definitely don't want to have to deal with all the unfortunate risks (STDs, unwanted pre…

A lot of couples don't watch porn together though. Lots of couples watching porn together does not mean they are the majority.

I don't see how the second in bizarre either. A majority is not the same as all here either. Married people can also watch porn when their partner is not in the mood, even when they would prefer sex. I'm not denying all of the cases you listed exist, only that they are not a majority of porn usage. I feel very confident assuming that there are lots of single people ages 15-30 watching porn alone and who would prefer sex, and that demographic alone would make up 50% at least.

Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

#53

not that it proves much overall, but the porn i masturbate to actually has little to do with what i enjoy sexually with a live woman. i'm sure i'm not the only one

Although this does leave the reader worried about your preferences when with women who are not so live.

Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What source do you have for "most porn is consumed as a substitute for sex with a partner?" That seems like a pretty big assertion and I'm inclined to disagree, but I'd like to hear your argument/reasoning/sources.

If you're inclined to disagree, how do you see it being consumed? As far as I know from my own experience, the vast majority of porn is consumed alone. I took that to be equivalent with the quoted section because I'm guessing most watching porn would also prefer sex with someone. It seems like your point is semantics to me unless you do truly believe that most porn is not consumed alone, in which case I'm really inte…

Alone, but not as a substitute for sex. People have partners, porn offers them an experience of being with someone else without cheating or leaving their partner.

Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Doesn't show autocomplete” doesn't mean “doesn't collect data”.

The article indicates that he has data from both pornhub and google. The interview questions jump between the two, but the questions about porn are mostly based on the pornhub data. One thing I'm curious about is that the article implies he has demographic information (sex, income, etc) about the searchers and I don't know how google/pornhub would know that. I would imagine the majority of searches are anonymous exce…

"Google for" has almost become an alias for "searching for", regardless of site used.

Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

#56

> "Stephens-Davidowitz’s data suggests that there are more gay men in the closet than we think..." > "...that a lot of straight women watch lesbian porn" Why not a lot straight men that watch gay porn, and more lesbian woman in the closet than you would think? Or just people who are hyper-sexual? I'd be interested in understanding the methods used to determine the difference between homosexuality and hyper-sexuality,…

Maybe it's an artifact of this interview format, but the researcher's conclusions seem a bit undersupported. For example, given the fact that male-male erotica is very common in fanfiction, a female-dominated activity, it would not surprise me if the "excess" gay porn was consumed by straight women, a demographic that we know is attracted to males.

Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

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This isn't very convincing. The conclusions rely on at least two assumptions that aren't well supported * That these searches are a proxy for honest expression of a sexual desire * That these searches are by the cohorts purported

And that interests of people searching for porn are representative of the general population. Agree. Not convinced (although the data is interesting).

I suspect that this assumption fails particularly spectacularly with women, who consume more erotica as art and text than men.

Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

#58
This article is of USA origin, clearly. You guys are strange -- always be like "ohhh we're Homo Sapiens, let's be ashamed of ourselves and let's deny our nature until the end of time!". You're starting to rival the Japanese in self-shaming which really says something.

Can't you just shout "I wanna f_ck any way I like and none of you can do anything about it!" and move on with your life already? Like, forever?

People have all sorts of fantasies and they develop based on one's persona, needs and environment. If your dream is to be nailed in the butthole by a game warden, there are probably millions of people on this planet who not only won't mock you but they'll also indulge you (by being the real thing, or by roleplaying). Same goes for if you can't get a boner without your bed being filled with unicorn plushies, or scr_wing armpits, or whatever floats your boat.

Drop the shame. Enough. Just go down the street smiling at the thought that nobody is oppressing your sexual needs, because in 99% of the time that's the truth.

Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

#59

> "Stephens-Davidowitz’s data suggests that there are more gay men in the closet than we think..." > "...that a lot of straight women watch lesbian porn" Why not a lot straight men that watch gay porn, and more lesbian woman in the closet than you would think? Or just people who are hyper-sexual? I'd be interested in understanding the methods used to determine the difference between homosexuality and hyper-sexuality,…

I am that guy who was always in women company (ever since 16, and I am 37 now) and almost never did hit on them. I was just much more interested in what women say, think and do -- compared to 99% of my male peers who were nothing more than testosterone-filled stupid machos.

My evidence is of course anecdotal, but from what I've seen, men have much less desire watching man-to-man action. It's related to many's fear of "turning gay without knowing it" (it's a funny concept but it's extremely common) and very often it's about them looking less manly if they don't show active interest in women... (A lot of men are really weird and kind of stupid in that regard.) That being said, me and many others who aren't ashamed of openly discussing sex are still not interested in gay action simply because it doesn't sexually appeal to us.

As for women, and when I asked them why do they watch gay men porn, many have told me that they believe only a man can know how to please a man to 100% and that they want to better educate themselves on how to be better in their sex life... and they might actually have a point; I've heard from several gay men that no woman's blowjob can ever hold a candle to one that a gay man can do -- I personally believe that to be an exaggeration but I think they're on to something there.

And finally, a lot of girls and women in my life have admitted to being interested in lesbian sex but are afraid due to social stigma and them being extremely vulnerable if they start actively looking for a woman sex partner. My own spouse openly admitted she'd f_ck a woman if she found one willing to do it. Strange thing is I wouldn't perceive that as cheating. I believe my S.O. is correct when she is saying that men think their girls cheat on them only if there's a penis involved.

That, plus hundreds of convos and experiences I've had in my life makes me think that women are innately bisexual while men are, most of the time, hetero-sexual.

Re: What Google searches for porn tell us about ourselves

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This makes Freakonomics sound like Nobel material. Completely vacuous. He uses the comparison that most men are looking to date skinny women, but that many men are "afraid" to act on their attraction to overweight women. Yet... nearly 40% of women are considered obese. About half are married or otherwise attached. Who is to say that the population of online daters strongly correlates with these terrified men?

> This makes Freakonomics sound like Nobel material. Completely vacuous. That's ironic considering he was a guest on an earlier Freakonomics episode: http://freakonomics.com/podcast/big-penis-things-ask-google/

I had forgotten about the podcast!
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