Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
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Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
A "drink" is not in line with common vernacular though. What most people would call a "drink" is usually about 1.5 or more drinks by the medical standard. A decent sized glass of red wine can easily be 3 drinks.
The article says a 12 oz beer (slightly larger than the standard 330ml beer) is 1 drink for the purposes of the study.
I couldn't get beyond the paywall, but did they mention which sort of beer? Standard Bud/Miller products? Using a 12 oz beer as a starting point doesn't mean much in a craft beer world with most "good" beers ranging from 5-8% ABV.
Edit: not really understanding the downvotes? Alcohol content is extremely important in understanding the meaning of a "drink". Not trying to be pedantic, but now more than ever, "a beer" is not really a useful descriptor.
I bring this up because I personally enjoy a beer at the end of a long day. I tend to drink IPAs, and those IPAs tend to range from 6-8% ABV. Trying to put this article in the context of my personal habits.
Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
#33Well why wouldn't it. Alcohol is not a health food. It crosses the blood brain barrier and is toxic to cells. So yeah put toxic stuff up there, there will be some consequence.
The mistake you are making is about dosage. All substances are toxic or harmless depending on the amount.
Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
#34So just for reference, 14 units of alcohol (the low-end correlated to atrophy) is approximately: 7-9 (US) shots of hard alcohol (assumed 37.5% ABV) 7 pints of Lager (assumed 4% ABV) 9.3 125 ml glasses of average strength wine (assumed 12% ABV) Looks like my 2-5 bottles of beer a week habit is fine. :) http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/...
One UK unit is 10 ml of pure alcohol.
Alcohol strength is indicated with Alcohol by Volume (ABV) as a percentage.
UK drinks are usually measured in ml, apart from pints and half pints. (One pint is 568 ml).
To work out the units you multiply the serving size in litres by the abv value.
Assuming your bottles are 330 ml, and the beer is 5%, and you have 5 per week, you'd be drinking a bit under 9 units.
This is comfortably under the current UK levels, which are no more than 14 units a week with some days drink free and don't "save up" the units for a weekend.
For context: People in England drink, and they drink a lot. There are many people who have a couple of glasses of wine most evenings, and these people don't think they have a problem even though they're drinking quite a lot.
Public Health England have a nice website called "Fingertips" that collates a bunch of public health data.
https://fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/liver-disease
> Deaths from liver disease are increasing in England. This is in contrast to most EU countries where liver disease deaths are falling. In 2014 the number of people who died with an underlying cause of liver disease in England rose to 11,597. This rise is in contrast to other major causes of disease which have been declining. Liver disease is largely preventable. Whilst approximately 5% is attributable to autoimmune disorders (diseases characterised by abnormal functioning of the immune system), most liver disease is due to three main risk factors: alcohol, obesity and viral hepatitis.
Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
#35>Even moderate drinking causes atrophy in brain area related to memory, learning
Well, that's for the better. Seeing that I drink to forget.
Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
#36Well why wouldn't it. Alcohol is not a health food. It crosses the blood brain barrier and is toxic to cells. So yeah put toxic stuff up there, there will be some consequence.
Haven't you heard of culling the herd? Meaning, in this case, deliberately killing off weaker brain cells to make the brain as a whole work faster.
Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
#37So just for reference, 14 units of alcohol (the low-end correlated to atrophy) is approximately: 7-9 (US) shots of hard alcohol (assumed 37.5% ABV) 7 pints of Lager (assumed 4% ABV) 9.3 125 ml glasses of average strength wine (assumed 12% ABV) Looks like my 2-5 bottles of beer a week habit is fine. :) http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/...
A single shot of hard liquor is explicitly 1 unit. 1 standard serving is 25ml, *40% (standard for whiskey and vodka ) = 10ml = 1 unit. So 14 units is 14 shots. This is not a coincidence. It's why they call it a "unit", and why the standard "single shot size" is 25ml. (The other measurements are fine) Edit: caveat: I'm European. This may be different in the us!
The US has a "standard drink", but it's different to a UK unit.
A US standard drink is 14 gm of pure alcohol. A UK unit is (as you say) 10 ml or pure alcohol, which is roughly 8 gm. (I think).
Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
#38Seriously, stop linking to sources that block adblockers. As far as I'm concerned they've taken themselves off the web.
PrivacyBadger generally blocks the ad-block blocking scripts (for now)
Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
#39Why not link to the actual study? http://www.bmj.com/content/357/bmj.j2353
550 civil servants followed over 30 years. > After adjustment for numerous potential confounders, alcohol use was associated with reduced right hippocampal volume in a dose dependent manner; even moderate drinkers (classified as up to 21 units a week for men at the time of the study) were three times more likely to have hippocampal atrophy than abstainers, and very light drinking (1-6 units a week) conferred no prote…
> 550 civil servants
Bureaucracy causes brain damage. Those with heavier damage took refuge in alcohol.
Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning
#40Seriously, stop linking to sources that block adblockers. As far as I'm concerned they've taken themselves off the web.
Would you mind letting us know your favorite and least favorite foods as well, please?
I'd hate to consume anything you don't like.