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Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning

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Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning

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would you give a 5 year old a beer? no? exactly. everyone knows drinking is bad for you. they do it anyway, because "reasons" [1] anyone who disagrees is just being irrational.

[1] which may include partying and hooking up, as well as removing any awkwardness they have.

Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning

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But they define "moderate" as 2 drinks/day for a man. That is 14 drinks a week which puts you in the second highest decile for Americans! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think...

A "drink" is not in line with common vernacular though. What most people would call a "drink" is usually about 1.5 or more drinks by the medical standard. A decent sized glass of red wine can easily be 3 drinks.

The article says a 12 oz beer (slightly larger than the standard 330ml beer) is 1 drink for the purposes of the study.

Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning

#23
A Mendelian randomization study that I find convincing suggests that there is no obvious safe level of alcohol intake from a cardiovascular standpoint.

This observational study linked by tuxguy points in the same direction, and it seems ripe for follow-up with genetic work that could support (or help refute) the likely direction of causality.

Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning

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But they define "moderate" as 2 drinks/day for a man. That is 14 drinks a week which puts you in the second highest decile for Americans! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think...

Yes, that's a pretty high amount

Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Popular news is all clickbait now. I've just opted out.

desperately seeking non-popular news with non-clickbait articles. got any referrals?

A print newspaper?

Edit: I'm not being sarcastic. Even if you read the online version of a print paper, you're getting articles that weren't optimized for clicks.

Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning

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post #22
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A "drink" is not in line with common vernacular though. What most people would call a "drink" is usually about 1.5 or more drinks by the medical standard. A decent sized glass of red wine can easily be 3 drinks.

The article says a 12 oz beer (slightly larger than the standard 330ml beer) is 1 drink for the purposes of the study.

What about alcohol content

Re: Moderate drinking associated with atrophy in brain related to memory, learning

#29

So just for reference, 14 units of alcohol (the low-end correlated to atrophy) is approximately: 7-9 (US) shots of hard alcohol (assumed 37.5% ABV) 7 pints of Lager (assumed 4% ABV) 9.3 125 ml glasses of average strength wine (assumed 12% ABV) Looks like my 2-5 bottles of beer a week habit is fine. :) http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/...

A single shot of hard liquor is explicitly 1 unit. 1 standard serving is 25ml, *40% (standard for whiskey and vodka ) = 10ml = 1 unit. So 14 units is 14 shots. This is not a coincidence. It's why they call it a "unit", and why the standard "single shot size" is 25ml. (The other measurements are fine) Edit: caveat: I'm European. This may be different in the us!

Bear in mind that these things vary by country (i.e. what is a single unit and what is a standard serving).

Around here a standard shot of spirits is a single unit, give or take at least, but it is 4 cL in size.

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