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California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Yep. Just a clarification: supermarkets, restaurants, bars, and coffee houses already have a single sign warning about cancer-causing agents per Prop 65. The "bag of potatoes" in your example would not have to be individually labeled. The Prop 65 warnings are basically invisible to Californians because they are literally posted everywhere food is sold.

If everything has a warning on it, what's the point?

Exactly. Eat at your own risk. Live at your own risk.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Avoiding the various herbicides and pesticides is the reason everyone I know who eats organic and non-GMO food does so. As always you should do your own research, draw your own conclusions. Be aware there is a shocking amount of astroturfing on this topic.

Ironically, by avoiding "GMO foods", your friends are probably increasing their exposure to herbicides that have a much clearer connection to human health risks.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Last time I looked, there was no solid evidence against glyphosate. Has the situation changed? Or is California reacting off of hype?

From what I can tell, everything that's been published since the IARC publication has been in the direction of glyphosate not being carcinogenic. As well: the World Health Organization walked IARC's claim back in a subsequent publication.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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> But who are the people here that keep defending it? In recent times, people have become afraid of being perceived as anti-science . See it all the time.

Worse, people believe in the results of anything labeled "science" blindly, without considering whether it's actually true or what the confidence level of the scientists is in their own result. For example, evolution. I know someone who believes in it so strongly that you can't suggest that it's still just a theory, and that it's actually possible that it's incorrect. Unlikely, sure, but possible . He gets irate and…

> For example, evolution. I know someone who believes in it so strongly that you can't suggest that it's still just a theory, and that it's actually possible that it's incorrect.

It is a theory, but theory in the scientific context doesn't mean what you think it means.

By the way, evolution is a fact.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

#145
post #93

Avoiding the various herbicides and pesticides is the reason everyone I know who eats organic and non-GMO food does so. As always you should do your own research, draw your own conclusions. Be aware there is a shocking amount of astroturfing on this topic.

could be said about your side as well ... almost all anti gmo/glyphosphate arguments can be traced back to sources with a financial interest in spreading fear about our food supply.

I am sharing why the people I know who eat organic food do so.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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can you point to a single case where that is true ? Doubt it.

agrochemicals are a leading method for suicide worldwide, although not so much in EU or US. glyphosate is much safer than other agrochemicals, but Roundup contains more than just glyphosate. People have died after drinking Roundup.

fair point, maybe what I should have said is can you point to a single injury/death resulting from the intended or proper use of roundup/glyphosphate.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

#147
post #93

Avoiding the various herbicides and pesticides is the reason everyone I know who eats organic and non-GMO food does so. As always you should do your own research, draw your own conclusions. Be aware there is a shocking amount of astroturfing on this topic.

Ironically, by avoiding "GMO foods", your friends are probably increasing their exposure to herbicides that have a much clearer connection to human health risks.

That would be ironic and sounds interesting, do you have a source that demonstrates organic food increases herbicide exposure?

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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could be said about your side as well ... almost all anti gmo/glyphosphate arguments can be traced back to sources with a financial interest in spreading fear about our food supply.

I am sharing why the people I know who eat organic food do so.

understood, I was responding to your "astroturfing" comment. The shill card gets played pretty frequently in these discussions.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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I would be interested in reading Cornell's study, because it seem to contradict a World Health Organization study that marks glyphosate as probably carcinogenic to humans (meaning that there is "sufficient evidence of carcinogenicity in experimental animals").

I'm wrong, it was the EPA, and Cornell just cited them (thanks for calling me on this!): https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-05-01/pdf/2013-10316.p... The WHO ultimately walked back IARC's glyphosate assessment: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-who-glyphosate-idUS...

Thanks for the links. It seems to me that the animal studies made by the EPA returned different results than the one done by the IARC. Citing the article from Reuters:

> "IARC reviews published studies to identify potential cancer hazards," the WHO said. "It does not estimate the level of risk to the population associated with exposure to the hazard."

I honestly don't know what conclusion, if any, should I have from this.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Ironically, by avoiding "GMO foods", your friends are probably increasing their exposure to herbicides that have a much clearer connection to human health risks.

That would be ironic and sounds interesting, do you have a source that demonstrates organic food increases herbicide exposure?

Please respond to what my comment actually said, not what you wish it said.
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