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Show HN: StackImpact – Python Production Profiler: CPU, Memory, Exceptions

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Re: Show HN: StackImpact – Python Production Profiler: CPU, Memory, Exceptions

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Post by metalliqaz »

This is an interesting project. It appears to me, based on the README and the name, that it was primarily intended to profile backend services in a web app.

I have a question for hacker news. Does Python still have a lot of momentum in this area? I love Python and use it whenever I can, but I find these days that most web frameworks assume right off the bat that you are using Node. The frontend landscape is so heavily tilted towards using js (and tools such as npm, etc) on the backend that fitting it into a Python flow is difficult, especially for beginners. In addition, we have the relatively fresh trend of using isomorphic code on both Node and the client. It seems like my beloved Python is being pushed to the background. Is there any truth to this? I would very much like to keep investing my energy into what I know, but if it is wasted effort, I will stop.

Re: Show HN: StackImpact – Python Production Profiler: CPU, Memory, Exceptions

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Post by LaurensBER »

Seems really interesting but a lot of companies are not willing or not able to send this to an unknown un trusted party.

Would it be possible to host this on premise?

Sentry seems to do quite well with a business model where customers are free to host it on premise. That might be worth a consideration.

I for one am interested but for me to become a customer I would first need to be able to trail it on my staging environment. Providing a docker container that I can host on premise would go a long way towards being able to do that.

Re: Show HN: StackImpact – Python Production Profiler: CPU, Memory, Exceptions

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Post by lolsal »

metalliqaz wrote: post #3

This is an interesting project. It appears to me, based on the README and the name, that it was primarily intended to profile backend services in a web app. I have a question for hacker news. Does Python still have a lot of momentum in this area? I love Python and use it whenever I can, but I find these days that most web frameworks assume right off the bat that you are using Node. The frontend landscape is so heavil…

There is tons of python work available (I weighed the unwritten src myself). Maybe the node/js news headlines are creating a recency bias?

Re: Show HN: StackImpact – Python Production Profiler: CPU, Memory, Exceptions

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Post by metalliqaz »

lolsal wrote: post #6
metalliqaz wrote: post #3

This is an interesting project. It appears to me, based on the README and the name, that it was primarily intended to profile backend services in a web app. I have a question for hacker news. Does Python still have a lot of momentum in this area? I love Python and use it whenever I can, but I find these days that most web frameworks assume right off the bat that you are using Node. The frontend landscape is so heavil…

There is tons of python work available (I weighed the unwritten src myself). Maybe the node/js news headlines are creating a recency bias?

Sure, this is possible, but I'm not basing my concerns on headlines so much, but rather what I'm seeing out there when I try to educate myself on what is going on in the frontend world. Once you get past basic JS and JQuery, everything seems to just take for granted you are using a toolchain that doesn't leave much room for Python.

Re: Show HN: StackImpact – Python Production Profiler: CPU, Memory, Exceptions

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Post by LaurensBER »

metalliqaz wrote: post #7
lolsal wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is tons of python work available (I weighed the unwritten src myself). Maybe the node/js news headlines are creating a recency bias?

Sure, this is possible, but I'm not basing my concerns on headlines so much, but rather what I'm seeing out there when I try to educate myself on what is going on in the frontend world. Once you get past basic JS and JQuery, everything seems to just take for granted you are using a toolchain that doesn't leave much room for Python.

It isn't to difficult to integrate Webpack with Django. I can't speak for other JS frontend tools but I can't imagine that it's very hard to do so.

I have no experience with server side rendering though but I can't imagine any problems with that either.

Re: Show HN: StackImpact – Python Production Profiler: CPU, Memory, Exceptions

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Post by dmitrim »

LaurensBER wrote: post #5

Seems really interesting but a lot of companies are not willing or not able to send this to an unknown un trusted party. Would it be possible to host this on premise? Sentry seems to do quite well with a business model where customers are free to host it on premise. That might be worth a consideration. I for one am interested but for me to become a customer I would first need to be able to trail it on my staging envi…

There is no on-prem offering yet, since there was actually no demand/requests. At least with the Golang agent, which was introduced first. With Python agent we will reprioritise it. Thank you for the feedback! (Disclaimer: I work at StackImpact)
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