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California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Post by tptacek »

striking wrote: post #18
cjensen wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Just a clarification: supermarkets, restaurants, bars, and coffee houses already have a single sign warning about cancer-causing agents per Prop 65. The "bag of potatoes" in your example would not have to be individually labeled. The Prop 65 warnings are basically invisible to Californians because they are literally posted everywhere food is sold.

If everything has a warning on it, what's the point?

At the point where you're putting a blanket warning on grocery stores: there is no point.

They might as well just start labeling the things that don't cause cancer, just like the little Kosher symbols on food.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Post by tptacek »

striking wrote: post #15
tptacek wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. I stand corrected.

"The settlement requires the potato chip producers to reduce acrylamide to 275 parts per billion in three years, a low enough level to avoid a Prop. 65 warning label. That amounts to a 20 percent reduction for Frito-Lay and an 87 percent reduction for Kettle Chips, Brown's office said. Little or no reduction will be needed for most Cape Cod chips, but one product, Cape Cod Robust Russets, will require a warning label…

Importantly: you are unlikely to avoid significant acrylamide production in home cooking. It's the potatoes that need the warning, not the chips.

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Post by ovi256 »

kennydude wrote: post #24
strictnein wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's as helpful as the cookie notifications on all the European websites.

EU Cookie law was mostly to deter the use of tracking tools (and actually allows them for login etc) but people ignored it and just slapped banners on.

Stupid real people creating unintended consequences for the well-meaning legislators. How's a legislator to regulate anything around here ?

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Post by luckydude »

Last time roundup came up here I made the claim that it killed my dad (healthy guy, came from a healthy long lived family, he died about 15-20 years sooner than his relatives from the cancer that is associated with roundup, you can google "non-hodgkin's lymphoma roundup" and you'll see a zillion lawyers wanting to talk to you about it).

Yet hackernews people shouted me down saying that it wasn't possible. I'm not an oncologist, I have no idea who is right, it was my Dad who told me he was convinced it was roundup, so what do I know? But it is weird that now the state of California sees it as carcinogen, the lawyers are salivating over it (not that they are oncologists either but they tend not to get excited unless they believe they will win), yet I'm sure people are going to reply that roundup is fine.

I don't know what to believe. It sure _seems_ like there is some bad juju in roundup, there shouldn't be this much fuss if it is just a conspiracy theory. But who are the people here that keep defending it? It would be oh-so-nice if someone who was clearly objective and an expert could lay it out. Does it cause cancer? How much do you have to be exposed to to get cancer? Do you have to eat it? Or does just getting it on your skin or breathing the fumes do it?

Re: California to list glyphosate as cancer-causing

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Post by balfirevic »

kennydude wrote: post #24
strictnein wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's as helpful as the cookie notifications on all the European websites.

EU Cookie law was mostly to deter the use of tracking tools (and actually allows them for login etc) but people ignored it and just slapped banners on.

Whatever it was intended for, they succeeded in making the browsing experience worse and annoying millions of people daily.
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