By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by catherinezng » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:09 PM UTC

By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation
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Re: By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by imjustapie » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:22 PM UTC

kudos to this well-researched post. As a student with a server in a dorm room, I really hope they don't take away my public IP address.

Re: By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by api » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:22 PM UTC

Does MIT have IPv6? If so just use that.

Re: By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by robertch » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:24 PM UTC

Projects have broken over this, with no real gain for implementing it. You would expect more rationality from MIT, of all places.

Re: By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by imjustapie » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:25 PM UTC

api wrote: post #3

Does MIT have IPv6? If so just use that.

I think MIT is in the process of rolling out IPv6 officially. They only got an allocation early last year, and I think right now it is being used on the VPN network.

Re: By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by achernya » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:26 PM UTC

api wrote: post #3

Does MIT have IPv6? If so just use that.

Author here -- MIT does not currently have IPv6. Although MIT did receive a /24 IPv6 allocation, https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET6-2603-4000-1, it's not routable everywhere on campus yet.

Unfortunately, IPv6 deployment is still below 20% (as measured by Google, https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html) so a publically-accessible IPv6 address is not yet sufficient.

Re: By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by betaby » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:29 PM UTC

Author got it wrong. MIT wants you to use IPv6.

Re: By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by amq » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:35 PM UTC

I'm all for supporting innovation and community services, but I think author is not mentioning other possible causes, like DMCAs, malware and spam (including unintended), which could have damaged the reputation.

I just wonder why MIT didn't give more time to move and why it doesn't provide a replacement in eg cloud credits.

Re: By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by imjustapie » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:37 PM UTC

betaby wrote: post #7

Author got it wrong. MIT wants you to use IPv6.

How can MIT people use IPv6 when it hasn't been rolled out on campus yet? How does it make any sense to put the campus (Ethernet) network behind a NAT, when MIT still has 18.0.0.0/9, half of what MIT has before but more than plenty to go around?

Re: By installing NAT, MIT stifles innovation

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Post by hawkling » Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 4:38 PM UTC

amq wrote: post #8

I'm all for supporting innovation and community services, but I think author is not mentioning other possible causes, like DMCAs, malware and spam (including unintended), which could have damaged the reputation. I just wonder why MIT didn't give more time to move and why it doesn't provide a replacement in eg cloud credits.

Good question indeed. Why didn't MIT give more time to move, and in fact gave absolutely no notice, such that WMBR, the campus radio station, had to scramble to get their online radio back online again?