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Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by psibi »

feikname wrote: post #116
psibi wrote: post #71

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Haven't tried if it works but my android version (6.0.1) seems to have an option for disabling internet for specific apps. Note that I haven't rooted (yet). Going to Settings -> Data Usage -> Settings will show me a list of apps and I can chose between following four options Allow, Forbidden, Wi-Fi only and Data only.

Which manufacturer? ASUS? My Motorola Moto G4 Play has Android 6.0.1 too and the only option present is to restrict background data.

Mine is a OnePlus 2 device.

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by teacup50 »

kstenerud wrote: post #179
throwaway7645 wrote: post #134

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This is important for parents to note. Teach your child about computing on a RaspPi where they'll actually learn real computing and not a walled device with a download button. I know they're convenient at a restaurant...etc, but they rigidly enforce instant gratification without much learning involved. I guess though it isn't super different than a Nintendo if taken with moderation, but I'd argue most of the games ar…

Welcome to parenthood. You even sound like the parents of the 80s and 90s now. Before that it was too much TV. Before that it was too much radio. In Victorian times it was reading too many books. Kids of today will always be kids of today, doing the things that they do instead of the things that you nostalgically remember doing. Even Socrates noted that.

Too much TV was and is a real problem.

I wasn't around for "too much radio". Sounds suspect. There wasn't that much programming available.

Too many books? Pfft.

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by bitJericho »

JTon wrote: post #172
bitJericho wrote: post #169

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I think nintendo has it right. I'd rather pay for the games and not be the product.

Would you pay a subscription for access to the old games? Ad revenue is recurring and is probably more attractive to Sega (vs. a one time purchase fee).

No, but I wouldnt be opposed to spending 20-40 for a good game either.

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Post by emodendroket »

throwaway7645 wrote: post #134
LoSboccacc wrote: post #127

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> Having a 4 year old son > games that he likes to play on my iPhone Dude those thing are psychological traps aimed to break a 30yo-something will, what do you think they'll do to a 4yo?

This is important for parents to note. Teach your child about computing on a RaspPi where they'll actually learn real computing and not a walled device with a download button. I know they're convenient at a restaurant...etc, but they rigidly enforce instant gratification without much learning involved. I guess though it isn't super different than a Nintendo if taken with moderation, but I'd argue most of the games ar…

We're in a thread talking about old consoles. It's easy to forget that the majority of games on any console were awful shovelware (I'm sure many of us have the experience of booting up an old, fondly remembered game only to slowly realize it's crap).

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Post by emodendroket »

teacup50 wrote: post #182
kstenerud wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to parenthood. You even sound like the parents of the 80s and 90s now. Before that it was too much TV. Before that it was too much radio. In Victorian times it was reading too many books. Kids of today will always be kids of today, doing the things that they do instead of the things that you nostalgically remember doing. Even Socrates noted that.

Too much TV was and is a real problem. I wasn't around for "too much radio". Sounds suspect. There wasn't that much programming available. Too many books? Pfft.

People didn't use to consider it edifying to read any book whatever, no matter how unchallenging and hackneyed. Now adults pat themselves on the back for finishing a young adult novel that's 100 pages long.

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Post by emodendroket »

morganvachon wrote: post #133
apapli wrote: post #29

Having a 4 year old son I am the first person to put my hand up and say I absolutely HATE ads and general in-app purchases for games that he likes to play on my iPhone. In some cases the way these are implemented it is almost akin to being in a casino which is not a skill I really want my son picking up (watch this ad to see what prize you can WIN etc). I welcome Sega's announcement and will be delighted to hand over…

The ads are insane. Want to save your progress (even in games with built in save mechanics in the original cart)? You have to watch an ad. Want to progress to the next level? Watch an ad. Want to progress past an in-level save point? Watch an ad. It completely removes the player from the game and makes it tedious to play. I mean, I guess I'm happy they are releasing these at all, but they need to come up with a bette…

Am I reading the discussion wrong or do they offer you a two-dollar no-ads option? Because for that price it seems like a no-brainer.

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Post by emodendroket »

vog wrote: post #109
apapli wrote: post #29

Having a 4 year old son I am the first person to put my hand up and say I absolutely HATE ads and general in-app purchases for games that he likes to play on my iPhone. In some cases the way these are implemented it is almost akin to being in a casino which is not a skill I really want my son picking up (watch this ad to see what prize you can WIN etc). I welcome Sega's announcement and will be delighted to hand over…

It seems to me that Sega pulled an interesting instance of the well-known fallacy "Works for Google, so it will work for us". (Not sure if there is a short name for this. "Google fallacy"?) Usually, the fallacy is more along mimicking technical details such as using a commodity hardware server setup or introducing high-scalability technology into early software stacks. However, seeing the same fallacy applied to ads,…

Free games on phones with obnoxious ads is new to you? And you associate it with Google?

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Post by draw_down »

cdevs wrote: post #141

Was excited until I download comix zone and heard the choppy audio and the game was lagging out - worked fine over 20 years ago. Just read a article and they ported these games into unity blah blah blah that doesn't excuse that you should test your product to see the final quality before porting everything over. This is unplayable garbage guys...

Looks like this is just another ploy to shovel a bunch of junk onto the App Store and collect the ad revenue. They had this IP just sitting around and not making any money, so what do they care. It doesn't actually need to be any good.

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Post by j2bax »

kakarot wrote: post #11

Serious kudos to Sega. This is how old games should be handled throughout the industry when possible. The likelihood of someone not already familiar with a title or franchise to play it is a function of A) its cost and B) how dated it is. Once a game is seeing marginal returns, it's kind of a very corporate mindset to try and suck it dry of every last penny. Especially when you view games as a form of art. I fear for…

I'm a little confused by your post.

You started with "Serious kudos to Sega." and ended it with "I can only imagine Sega has ruined this very noble idea with intrusive ads and a payment scheme for removing them."

Should they be applauded or shunned?

Additionally, the games of your youth are special, partly because they were a part of your youth. There will likely be games of your children's youth that they hold near and dear likewise. Maybe they will be serious enthusiasts and want to track the history of video games and see how we arrived at this current age, but thats a lot to take in! In my opinion, Nintendo has continued to release novel and fun games throughout the years that stick to the same principles that they designed the original Mario and Zelda following. Their last few console titles would be a good place to start and a potential bridge between the new and the old.

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Post by emodendroket »

taneq wrote: post #25
paulcole wrote: post #22

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You can play without paying money, right? That's much one definition of free, isn't it? Edit: Why the downvoted? I thought free = no money?

Not if they force you to do work for them in order to use it. They're basically employing you to look at ads, and paying you in game time.

In that case almost nothing on the app store or Google Play store is free.
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