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Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by harel »

apapli wrote: post #29

Having a 4 year old son I am the first person to put my hand up and say I absolutely HATE ads and general in-app purchases for games that he likes to play on my iPhone. In some cases the way these are implemented it is almost akin to being in a casino which is not a skill I really want my son picking up (watch this ad to see what prize you can WIN etc). I welcome Sega's announcement and will be delighted to hand over…

I've just downloaded a couple of games, and I do have the option to buy for £1.99, an ad free version.

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by guelo »

lucasverra wrote: post #75
huhtenberg wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Set up a DNS proxy, point your son's iPad at it, tail the log and then blacklist domains that serve these ads. Bonus, this can also be used to remove YouTube and other kinds of ads as well as all the phone-home "analytics" if that's your thing. -- Edit -- Some options: http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html + ToDo's via Google https://github.com/apankrat/dnswhisperer or more generally https://github.com/search…

Also, the kid and father could pihole the shait out of it. I know i really want to do it. Q: About ad blocking dns projects in general, what's the downside ? (beside jeopardizing the future of the internets)

The same downside as adblockers: some websites will break or block you.

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by morganvachon »

apapli wrote: post #29

Having a 4 year old son I am the first person to put my hand up and say I absolutely HATE ads and general in-app purchases for games that he likes to play on my iPhone. In some cases the way these are implemented it is almost akin to being in a casino which is not a skill I really want my son picking up (watch this ad to see what prize you can WIN etc). I welcome Sega's announcement and will be delighted to hand over…

The ads are insane. Want to save your progress (even in games with built in save mechanics in the original cart)? You have to watch an ad. Want to progress to the next level? Watch an ad. Want to progress past an in-level save point? Watch an ad.

It completely removes the player from the game and makes it tedious to play. I mean, I guess I'm happy they are releasing these at all, but they need to come up with a better way to serve ads that doesn't defeat the purpose of the game itself (quick bouts of fun).

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by throwaway7645 »

LoSboccacc wrote: post #127
apapli wrote: post #29

Having a 4 year old son I am the first person to put my hand up and say I absolutely HATE ads and general in-app purchases for games that he likes to play on my iPhone. In some cases the way these are implemented it is almost akin to being in a casino which is not a skill I really want my son picking up (watch this ad to see what prize you can WIN etc). I welcome Sega's announcement and will be delighted to hand over…

> Having a 4 year old son > games that he likes to play on my iPhone Dude those thing are psychological traps aimed to break a 30yo-something will, what do you think they'll do to a 4yo?

This is important for parents to note. Teach your child about computing on a RaspPi where they'll actually learn real computing and not a walled device with a download button. I know they're convenient at a restaurant...etc, but they rigidly enforce instant gratification without much learning involved. I guess though it isn't super different than a Nintendo if taken with moderation, but I'd argue most of the games are less complicated in scope...more like slot machines than something with an engaging story and strategy. They also have an infinite amount of games at their fingertips instead of I'm bored with "x", time to go play.

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by LoSboccacc »

throwaway7645 wrote: post #134
LoSboccacc wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Having a 4 year old son > games that he likes to play on my iPhone Dude those thing are psychological traps aimed to break a 30yo-something will, what do you think they'll do to a 4yo?

This is important for parents to note. Teach your child about computing on a RaspPi where they'll actually learn real computing and not a walled device with a download button. I know they're convenient at a restaurant...etc, but they rigidly enforce instant gratification without much learning involved. I guess though it isn't super different than a Nintendo if taken with moderation, but I'd argue most of the games ar…

Well I think some gaming is okish, with moderation and even as a time-off for parents, but at that age socializing should be the primary activity, and that includes making a scene in public and facing the consequences.

That said there are plenty games suitable for children that aren't manipulative iap-infested swamps. sure you have to pay those, but destroying reward centers of kids that age isn't worth the saving from freemiums.

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by ekianjo »

intoverflow2 wrote: post #118
huhtenberg wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Set up a DNS proxy, point your son's iPad at it, tail the log and then blacklist domains that serve these ads. Bonus, this can also be used to remove YouTube and other kinds of ads as well as all the phone-home "analytics" if that's your thing. -- Edit -- Some options: http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html + ToDo's via Google https://github.com/apankrat/dnswhisperer or more generally https://github.com/search…

Another alternative is buy him a Nintendo handheld instead of an iPad. No ads, no dodgy content, quality games.

what if you dont like Nintendo games ?

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by nf05papsjfVbc »

ekianjo wrote: post #136
intoverflow2 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another alternative is buy him a Nintendo handheld instead of an iPad. No ads, no dodgy content, quality games.

what if you dont like Nintendo games ?

The games are for a young child. It is quite unlikely that Nintendo makes a game that is unsuitable for or disliked by people of that age. They are the one console maker who focuses on gameplay experience instead of graphics technology.

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by fnord123 »

ekianjo wrote: post #136
intoverflow2 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another alternative is buy him a Nintendo handheld instead of an iPad. No ads, no dodgy content, quality games.

what if you dont like Nintendo games ?

Then don't buy a Nintendo handheld...?

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by afro88 »

apapli wrote: post #29

Having a 4 year old son I am the first person to put my hand up and say I absolutely HATE ads and general in-app purchases for games that he likes to play on my iPhone. In some cases the way these are implemented it is almost akin to being in a casino which is not a skill I really want my son picking up (watch this ad to see what prize you can WIN etc). I welcome Sega's announcement and will be delighted to hand over…

You should definitely report the game to Apple. Games have ratings, and a guy holding a girl in a headlock with a gun pointed to her head is depiction of violence and likely not 4+ age friendly.

Apple are the only people that can force the game to change it's ad inventory.

Re: Sega releasing every console game for free with ads on mobile

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Post by Shivetya »

apapli wrote: post #29

Having a 4 year old son I am the first person to put my hand up and say I absolutely HATE ads and general in-app purchases for games that he likes to play on my iPhone. In some cases the way these are implemented it is almost akin to being in a casino which is not a skill I really want my son picking up (watch this ad to see what prize you can WIN etc). I welcome Sega's announcement and will be delighted to hand over…

On the App store when browsing the various apps with in-app purchases you can get a history of the popular purchases. Needless to say I am quite astonished at how rapidly the in-app purchase price increases. From simple 99 cent purchases to 99 dollars.

The ability to make in-app purchases needs to be turned off by default rather than buried three levels down in iOS

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